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    Is that Greenwich Street that is already being used for vehicular traffic?

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    ^ Yes and WTC 2 & 3 is open for business.

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    Psst: Church Street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenwichBoy View Post
    ^ Yes and WTC 2 & 3 is open for business.



    If that is true, then I'm an astronaut!

    Thanks, Lofter1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Psst: Church Street.
    Can't be, since 4WTC is to the right of the road in the frame. It's Greenwich St south of Liberty.

    Anyway, a cut & paste from my response to the Conde-vent.

    First, the actual vent is going to be recessed. So...the worst of the grime will cake the small area between the vent and the curtain wall. It won't be that high up, CN is only taking the first 21 floors. Worst case, it's on the 41st.


    Closer view.


    Now, you can just leave a warm alcove like that, it will get festered with birds and their mess real quick. Random crap will get blown in there too. So the curtain wall will have a mess/grate screen. Probably not this thick of a grating, but that's a trade off in order to make the material look good far away.



    It also won't catch the sun like that, since it's on the north face of the building. So from the street, it will look something like this:


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    I think they would put the cafeteria on a low floor, or the middle floor at the highest.

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    Thanks for the mock-up of the vents, STR. It definitely doesn't look as awful as I was expecting -- and it is good to know that it won't be big vertically -- but I still can't believe there wasn't a better solution. Chris Ward's concern over this setting a precedent for other tenant concessions is troubling... I still can't believe that the Port Authority didn't consider tenants would want their own employee cafeteria.

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    A similar vent system is used at 7WTC.

    The first 3 floors above the base contain mechanical equipment. The glass panels are open at the top. You can hardly see it, but there's black screen covering the opening.

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    I would hate to try to clean the back of those glass panes.

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    True, strictly in term of the ROM issues: that is a bad idea.
    But this one seems like a fairly simple enough 'Repair,Operation,Maintenance' issue to deal with - imagine the ROM issues of at that new Cooper Union building with all those complex forms and surfaces to deal with: now thats a maintenance issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macreator View Post
    I would hate to try to clean the back of those glass panes.
    At 7WTC, the air is just ventilation.

    At 1WTC, they'll need a restaurant exhaust scrubber to filter the air.

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    It's not because of a cafeteria. A cafeteria could use the shared exhaust system. As I read it, it's because Conde Nast might put in a test kitchen for food magazines, and they don't want any other smells to interfere, or submit to the vent inspection regulations. PA must be desperate for a big tenant to allow an alteration for something a tenant 'might' or 'might not' do.

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    We certainly don't wanna mix our smells.

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    Anyone notice the stickers on the glass panes in front of the vent at 7 WTC?

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    If you take off the stickers, it's no longer new.

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