as in the old saying: "Put your money where your mouth is"
Saying the radome isn't necessary because you can transmit without it is like saying a car can run without any windows. It was done to save money; Durst said $20 million. I read (on SSP I think) that a poster sent an email to Durst inquiring about the spire change. The response he got was that the radome wouldn't work. you might be tempted to send another email for an explanation, but after a vague response like that, you would only get back something more stupid, or nothing at all.
Only pressure on the PA can stop this, but they've become less transparent over time on all matters WTC.
Can't say anything about something unseen, but the antenna on the old north Tower was ugly.
The present transmission tower on the ESB is also ugly. What saves it is the spire it sits on.
I'd still like the official height issue to be clarified. If what will be installed is an antenna no different than what was on the old WTC or on the Empire State Building, does that mean the insipid 1,776 foot height is going to quietly go away? I would think it would have to be dropped to 1,362. I know it's just semantics, but 1776 was made a critical feature years ago by Libeskind and the politicians. If it was so great then, what changed? (and I am not of the position that it ever was great).
There's really no universally agreed upon definition, but this organization carries a lot of weight.
If the PA and various New York politicians attach any importance to the symbolic height of 1776 ft, a better strategy might be convincing the PA to check the new design with the above group.
This height measurement stuff means nothing to me; it either looks good or it doesn't. But after years of hearing about 1776, it might be embarrassing for the PA and others to witness their building height listed (officially or not) at 1400-something feet.
It's still a structural spire, and if i understand correctly the steel part will be built the same as before, only the covering will be left off.
Good read: http://www.ctbuh.org/TallBuildings/H...S/Default.aspx
Height is measured from the level1 of the lowest, significant,2 open-air,3 pedestrian4 entrance to the architectural top of the building, including spires, but not including antennae, signage, flag poles or other functional-technical equipment.5 This measurement is the most widely utilized and is employed to define the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat rankings of the "World's Tallest Buildings."
Something like Tokyo Sky Tree would have been nice as WTC1, it would have been exceptional!
(I was to add an image, but the new "Insert Image" says it's too big, even though it's not)
Last edited by NYBOY75; March 10th, 2012 at 03:29 PM.
There doesn't seem to be anywhere to put an observation tower like that in NYC. Perhaps Jersey City could do one. That would be one hell of a tourist attraction for Jersey. Tourists would go over there to see an amazing view of Manhattan.
Hey guys, sorry I have been out of touch for a bit on WNY, I am busy on a few things.
Speaking of "busy", I was busy making more animation goodies:
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