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    They took out the 40' jib extension from the 16000 that they had put in a while back.
    I was actually at the WFC this afternoon and got a picture. You can see the section they took out lying on the ground to the right of the crane.


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    What are those giant cement boxes on the west st side that flank this site? Are they permanent structures, because I do not recall seeing them in the renderings.

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    Ventilation structures. Also hold freight elevators for the museum. The were more minimally rendered and often hidden by trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uakoops View Post
    They took out the 40' jib extension from the 16000 that they had put in a while back.
    I was actually at the WFC this afternoon and got a picture. You can see the section they took out lying on the ground to the right of the crane.

    Great shot! Did you happen to stick around long enough to see what the other awaiting flatbed for? (im guessing the wooden mats but not to sure)

    BTW, did you get any shots of the Cat 385 with the extended stick? Dieing to see it in action
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Schiano View Post
    Great shot! Did you happen to stick around long enough to see what the other awaiting flatbed for? (im guessing the wooden mats but not to sure)

    BTW, did you get any shots of the Cat 385 with the extended stick? Dieing to see it in action

    Do you mean this one? I thought it looked interesting too.


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    Moved 26 posts relating to the Winter Garden staircase and headhouse to the Winter Garden thread.

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    New arches installed at the NE corner of the North Pool ...

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    And lots of activity atop the subway box ...

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    So is that truss piece arriving today or not?

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    I don't see how they could possibly be ready for the west side truss when there is nothing to support it.

    I do see lots of temporary supports for the "east box girder".

    (The names are confusing, the east side box girder goes on the east side of the PATH station, on the west side of the #1 subway box. The "west truss" goes on the west end of the transit hub, on the east side of the #1 box.)

    The earthcam is on the east side of the site looking west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenSteelDude View Post
    I don't see how they could possibly be ready for the west side truss when there is nothing to support it.

    I do see lots of temporary supports for the "east box girder".

    (The names are confusing, the east side box girder goes on the east side of the PATH station, on the west side of the #1 subway box. The "west truss" goes on the west end of the transit hub, on the east side of the #1 box.)

    The earthcam is on the east side of the site looking west.
    Isn't there a truss on each side of the #1 box? So the "East box beam" is on the East side of the PATH station, while the East and West trusses are on each side of the subway box, which puts the West truss immediately to the East of the East Box Beam.

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    I'll get shot down for this but ...

    Now, seeing things rise at the site and considering what will be going in sometime in the future, I wouldn't mind seeing the "wings" of Calatrava's Transit Hall rethought or even minimized to a greater degree than they already have been since the initial design was revealed. The most powerful gesture here, sitting as it will between two ~ 900' towers (each of quite different design) would be something big, strong and simple.

    I'd love to be proven wrong, but methinks that Calatrava's great design would work better with open or low-rise space around it -- and ultimately could seem a bit overdone when crowded by huge structures.

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    Never forger Trinity Church, which sits right behind it. Or, the Barclay-Vesey building, which is about to be boxed in, in a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uakoops View Post
    Isn't there a truss on each side of the #1 box? So the "East box beam" is on the East side of the PATH station, while the East and West trusses are on each side of the subway box, which puts the West truss immediately to the East of the East Box Beam.
    There is no need for a truss on the west side of the #1 box, the Box girder well take all the load on that side. (I actually went back and checked the prints)


    Lofter, I think the wings soaring over Fulton street and coming within 30 feet or so of #2&3 is rather cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenSteelDude View Post
    There is no need for a truss on the west side of the #1 box, the Box girder well take all the load on that side. (I actually went back and checked the prints)


    Lofter, I think the wings soaring over Fulton street and coming within 30 feet or so of #2&3 is rather cool.

    Thanks, I thought I remembered a diagram posted here a while back showing it the way I thought. Since you have the actual prints you obviously have the real info.

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    Press Release from Oct 21, 2010:

    The commissioners were told that the massive arches and steel that will support the PATH Station roof including some as large as 80 tons will be installed beginning in December. These steel members are being manufactured and fabricated in various locations in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Canada and Spain.

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