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Thread: WTC Transit Hub - by Santiago Calatrava

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    Ironically, by the time they put up all the rafters (which appears to be once a month) we'll all look like that.

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    Doesn't look like much has changed in the last few weeks.

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    Those rafters are piling up around the site, but they seem to be doing other stuff.

    Concrete pour going on right now. Most of the temporary braces across the "spine" have been removed.

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    I think you can retire the scare quotes, Zip. Calvatrava landed a giant armadillo in our midst. Why bother qualifying it? I personally think it's awesome, but I'm not going to deny its armadillo-ness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oquatanginwan View Post


    or...



    (should he have included the boy and bird's head motif to make it easier to visualize?)

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    The boy-releasing-the-bird theme was part of the original presentation, in which the oculus was somewhat different than what is being built.



    While the above rendering would have evolved into a more practical design, it was the PA and NYPD that forced the change in the hub, much the same as they changed the base of 1WTC.

    A NYTimes article from 2005:

    The revised design of Mr. Calatrava's birdlike World Trade Center transportation hub and PATH terminal, which is expected to be approved today by the Port Authority board, appears at first to be nearly identical to the concept unveiled in 2004. But subtle changes have occurred to buttress the building against bombings and to control costs.
    "We looked at various security enhancements around the base and how to fortify it," said Anthony R. Coscia, chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. "Those things were all done in a way that stayed faithful to the original vision."

    Mr. Coscia said that the revised design had been reviewed by the New York Police Department and by James K. Kallstrom, who is overseeing security at the site for New York State, and that "everybody is comfortable" with the new plans.
    But the main transit hall, between Church and Greenwich Streets, will almost certainly lose some of its delicate quality, while gaining structural expressiveness. It may now evoke a slender stegosaurus more than it does a bird.
    Twice as many steel ribs will enclose the transit hall in the revised design. By reducing the space between the ribs to 5 feet from 11, the designers have cut down on the amount of glass that would be exposed to a blast. The ribs themselves would create a protective shadow, depending on the angle of the explosion.

    New beaklike prows - it is difficult to avoid zoomorphism when describing Mr. Calatrava's architecture - will extend from the Church Street end of the main transit hall. This hardened prow, about 25 feet long, will protect a critical structural juncture.

    A solid wall more than three feet high will ring the base of the transit hall, where the glass bays once almost reached the pavement, and the hall itself will shrink in length to less than 330 feet from 360 feet. This will increase the distance between the hall and surrounding streets, a key means of limiting destruction from vehicle-borne bombs.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/28/ny...uild.html?_r=0

    Only the PA would argue that they tried to control costs by doubling the number of gigantic steel parts.

    I think the building is still monumental, but now a lot of that is because of its massiveness. It sure isn't bird-like.

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    Today I went down to check out the Memorial Plaza and saw that workers are welding new wing tips along the western side of the hub. They're installing big round tubes, connecting each piece a bit out from the structure. I'll post photos later. (btw: The Memorial Plaza was really crowded with folks of all sorts, everywhere.)

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    Friday May 23, 2014 ...










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    BIG Clamps!

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    Try to contain your excitement...

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    Oh...well I guess they heard our complaints. Any chance we could do the same for Penn Station?

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    Oh baby, thats going to be a view to BEHOLD.....
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    Notice how the trees at the perimeter of the pools are showing stress (much more noticeable in person & up close). Branches on those trees exhibit stunted leaf growth, particularly on the sides directly facing the pools. Wonder if that is from water spray from cascading fountains? Not sure why that would effect the trees. The water isn't treated correct? Just Hudson River water that is filtered and recycled? Or am I missing something here?

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