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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake
    ^pics from the post above by Zippy (for those of you too lazy to click)
    http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=355
    Why would the quasi-government Port Authority so prominently watermark those photos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by americasroof
    http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=355
    Why would the quasi-government Port Authority so prominently watermark those photos?
    Maybe they're afraid the Chinese will steal then and then know how to built a curving concrete wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by americasroof
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    Why would the quasi-government Port Authority so prominently watermark those photos?
    I don't know, are they offering posters? Maybe they want you to get them from the poster store.

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    Lots of agencies post photos on their sites-Cal DOT District 4 has a great site with progress photos of the SF-Oakland Bay Bridge and other major bridge projects. I have never seen any with watermaks like the PA.

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    While I am still waiting, I just can't stop dreaming about this structure...



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    It's amazing how much the design resembles the bases of the old World Trade Center towers

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    and a stegarompaurus

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    It is kinda spikey in the rendering.

    In the ancient art of Feng Shui, pointy designs supposedly put out bad chi in the form of "secret arrows" and need deflection from some other element.

    The Twin Towers apparently were very good design forms from this standpoint with the radio beacon being the only secret arrow.

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    In some way, I respect beliefs like Feng Shui, and the role it played in the development of traditional Chinese architecture. It seems to have many logical tenets in regard to interior design. However, I would never want designers of modern architecture to follow the pointy rule too slavishly- seems like it would eliminate too many possibilities, and in this case we wouldn't have this amazing work of art by Calatrava.

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    Question: I assume the white lines outside the hub are designated pedestrian space. However there are two streets running adjacent to them. If they are painted on the street and not separate as a sidewalk how are the cabbies gonna avoid plowing into crowds of people standing on these "lines"?

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    They're painted on the sidewalk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    and a stegarompaurus

    You mean a Dimetrodon:





    Dimetrodon was a carnivorous pelycosaur of the Permian Period. As a reptile it was able to flourish in the arid conditions brought on by the final suturing of the supercontinent Pangea. Dimetrodon is probably the most famous of the pelycosaurs because of its striking appearance. First, it was very large, spanning over 11 feet. But what was most unusual was its large "sail" back of extended vertebrae. This device served to regulate Dimetrodon's body temperature. To warm up, it would bask in the morning sun with its sail facing the sun. Then, in the late afternoon when it became too hot, Dimetrodon would simply turn around so that only the thin edge of the sail faced the sun. Unfortunately, this unusual reptile's time on Earth was limited due to the pressures of the great Permian extinction. It was the Therapsid, a mammalian like reptile, that eventually took the place of Dimetrodon and the other pelycosaurs by late Permian time.

    http://www.uky.edu/AS/Geology/webdog...mian/perm4.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime
    You mean a Dimetrodon:

    Dimetrodon was a carnivorous pelycosaur of the Permian Period ... Unfortunately, this unusual reptile's time on Earth was limited due to the pressures of the great Permian extinction. It was the Therapsid, a mammalian like reptile, that eventually took the place of Dimetrodon and the other pelycosaurs by late Permian time.
    Corrected again ... gotta love this forum!! Where else would I learn this about our ancestors????

    Pelycosaur






    THERAPSID




    Therapsids are a clade of advanced synapsid animals from the late Permian period. They had teeth that were differentiated into post-canines and incisors. Dominant among the early therapsids were the large dinocephalians.

    The clade of therapsids includes the mammals, some close relatives, and their recent common ancestors. Some therapsids include the Eotitanosuchids, herbivorous dicynodonts (like Boreogomphodon, Lystrosaurus, Kannemeyeria, Estemmenosuchus, and Ischigualastia), and the cynodonts (like Cynognathus, Probainognathus, and Thrinaxodon).



    Cynognathus (pronounced sy-nog-NAY-thus) was a cynodont (a mammal-like reptile, not a dinosaur) that was the size of a wolf. This therapsid lived on open plains during the early to middle Triassic period, roughly 230-245 million years ago. It was probably warm-blooded and may have given birth to live young.

    Diet and Teeth: Cynognathus was a fast-moving carnivore (a meat-eater). It had powerful jaws and dog-like teeth, including sharp incisors, long canines, and shearing cheek teeth. This predator hunted herbivores like Kannemeyeria (another early therapsid) in packs.

    Anatomy: Cynognathus was a quadruped (it walked on four legs) that was flat-footed. It had a tail shorter than that of most reptiles. Cynognathus was roughly 5 feet (1.5 m) long. Its long skull was over 1 ft (30 cm) long. It isn't known what Cynognathus' skin was like - it may have had been covered with hair.

    Fossils and Name: Cynognathus was named by H. G. Seeley in 1876. Cynognathus means "dog jaw." Fossils have been found in South Africa and Argentina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake
    Question: I assume the white lines outside the hub are designated pedestrian space. However there are two streets running adjacent to them. If they are painted on the street and not separate as a sidewalk how are the cabbies gonna avoid plowing into crowds of people standing on these "lines"?
    Those aren't painted lines, they are frosted glass light wells for the station below.

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    From the renderings it does not seem like there is a sidewalk there.

    macreator, please tell me you're not kidding. If that is the case that'd be just great.

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