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    There's a new crane on the crane bridge.

    When can we expect to see some permanent supports for the new roof over the train hall?

  2. #1067
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    Port may consider early ban on W.T.C. tour buses

    Downtown Express
    By Julie Shapiro

    When the World Trade Center site welcomes millions of visitors starting as soon as 2011, they might arrive not by tour bus but by PATH train.

    Routing tour buses through New Jersey rather than Lower Manhattan is one idea the Port Authority is considering, Joe Daniels, president of the National September 11 Memorial & Museum, said this week.

    “Underlying it is the idea of aggregating people elsewhere and getting them down [to the W.T.C.] through a means other than just relying on buses,” Daniels said. He said he strongly supports the idea, to improve the experience of both residents and memorial goers.

    “There always will be bus traffic,” Daniels said, “and I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing, but it has to be limited…. You can’t turn Lower Manhattan into a big parking lot.”

    Daniels spoke at Community Board 1’s W.T.C. Redevelopment Committee Monday night. The committee members have repeatedly requested that the expected influx of tour buses on and after the 10-year anniversary of 9/11 not come all the way to Lower Manhattan. But Daniels’ comments were the first indication that the community’s idea is gaining traction with the Port.

    When the W.T.C.’s vehicle security center opens, possibly in 2012, some of the buses will be able to fit there. The plan Daniels discussed was primarily for the interim period after the memorial opens but before the V.S.C. is finished.

    Daniels declined to elaborate on the proposal, saying the Port Authority was leading the discussions, which also include the city Dept. of Transportation.

    Port spokesperson Steve Coleman said only, “We are working with our stakeholders on the best way to accommodate bus traffic until the V.S.C. opens.”

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    The idea is attractive. It gets buses out of the city and the Hudson crossings. It would allow both Jersey & NY to share the benefits of the tourism dollars. Most important: it would reduce pollution caused by iding buses and the ghastly feeling of being walled in on sidewalks against which they park.

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    Sounds like a win-win. Tour buses are no way to experience the city, anyway.

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    Yeah, but isn't the PATH an overcrowded mess already?

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    A ban on tour buses would be fantastic news.

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    I like the idea of routing the tourists through Jersey. It keeps Lower Manhattan free of the bus traffic and it has the WTC visitors arriving through the crown jewel of the new complex, the transportation hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMAG View Post
    Yeah, but isn't the PATH an overcrowded mess already?
    It is during rush hour. However, I would guess that most tourists would use the train during off-peak times, like late morning and early afternoon.

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    Almost gone..

    Does any one remember the graphic in the NYT (or somewhere?) that showed a diagram of the 1 train underpinnings? they were talking about how innovative it was.. top down..

    does anyone have that graphic? that is the work they are starting this quarter and finishing next.

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    This one?
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  12. #1077


    yes... !1

    so if i read the PA update right they will be encasing those mini piles in cement for the most part to make the super columns that will support the roof .

    At the same time taking some mini piles out and installing a huge box girder and truss system to support the train over the PATH pedestrian under pass.

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    The tower cranes to do that^ are among the next things to arrive. They will stand between that PATH station and the Memorial.

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    Tower cranes, something else to look forward to seeing.

    It looks like they are getting close to finishing the excavation of the east bathtub. How long after that is done until they start actual foundation work? Do they have a contract with anyone yet for the foundation work?

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    i think they are holding off on naming a contractor for the below grade Hub work until the tower2/3 issues are worked out..

    A to grade contractor was supposed to be named this quarter but they changed the RFP to include the below grade work on T2 and T3.

    They still have a bunch of excavation to do under the #1 line including diggin out and preparations for the PAC site beneath the current temp PATH station.

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