how are they breaking down the south PATH roof without crane support?
the large crawler to the east seems to be occupied with steel erecting. though it could probably reach.. and the tower crane n the north pool hasnt moved.
This is getting interesting... Fulton St temporary decking is being extended now over the canyon between temp PATH station and memorial North Pool to that temporary roof... Never imagined it would go like that! I mean, looks so fragile (to me) to be the access road for trucks delivering steel and second PATH tower crane parts! Or probably I underestimate steel strength Or would it serve some other purpose perhaps?..
Yeah, I see the new platform. Is a crane going to actually go out on that?
I'm not up on this project too well. What are the differences between the current planned design of the structure and the original proposal? I know it was watered down a bit.
The big difference is the addition of (2?) columns to the mezzanine, as well as other differences such as the use of regular concrete as opposed to architectural concrete, and I think they changed the design of the columns in the WFC connector passageway. I'm sure there is other less notable stuff done too to keep the budget down.
The biggest is that the roof will be staionary. It was originally supposed to open up creating an even greater sense of a bird taking flight. Now, we get to feel like Jonah in the belly of the whale. however, it beats the hell out of Penn Station and Atlantic Terminal.
The wings have been shortened. And the skeletal columns that meet the plaza have redesigned (they used to split and hit the plaza as two columns -- sort of like and ulna and a radius -- but are now thicker and solid).
looking back through this thread it's kind of shocking to see that lots of the early images have been replaced by those noxious little blue boxes.
But here's some of what remains, showing some of the changes starting in 2004 and moving up through 2008 ...
It went from a light, delicate bird to stegosaurus fossil,
I think the clipped wings will be better as it is really jammed into that site.
whens excavation supposed to end, any estimates
Sure am. Gehry's buildings are very expensive but with few exceptions they actively engage a captive audience, his billowing forms don't just look good on the outside but they usually form uniquely shaped rooms on the inside, the same goes for his windows which are faceted and unique but are usually placed so that people can interact them and look outside them. Gehry is guilty of carrying some lines just to complete a the design which serve no purpose as all expressionist architects are, but there are no flying wings, large expanses of glass not covering anything, and giant bridge like structures that serve no structural purpose, all of which might look great on the outside, but cost millions of dollars, are only experienced from a safe distance, and serve zero purpose to the indoor experience. I just came back from Los Angeles and enjoyed the Disney Concert Hall along with hundreds of other people who were sitting on the steps, and actually walking on the exterior of the building as a pathway winds up and around the entire building allowing people to touch the building, enjoy every angle and the skin as it changes with the sun, as well as hidden litte oasis that suprise and greet an engaged audience.
Last edited by NoyokA; January 19th, 2010 at 01:43 PM.