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    To whomever did this.... Happy now you mother****er(s)....

    April 16, 2013, 2:52 pm 20 CommentsNeighborhood Mourns Loss of 8-Year-Old Following Boston Blasts

    By JOHN ELIGON Martin Richard’s father released a statement on Tuesday along with this photo.
    BOSTON — Bill Richard, the father of the 8-year-old boy who was killed in Monday’s deadly explosions at the Boston Marathon, released a statement on Tuesday thanking everyone for their thoughts and prayers and asking for “patience and for privacy as we work to simultaneously grieve and recover.”
    “My dear son Martin has died from injuries sustained in the attack on Boston,” the statement read. “My wife and daughter are both recovering from serious injuries. We thank our family and friends, those we know and those we have never met, for their thoughts and prayers. I ask that you continue to pray for my family as we remember Martin. We also ask for your patience and for privacy as we work to simultaneously grieve and recover.”
    The street outside the family’s home in the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston was filled with reporters and television cameras on Tuesday. Mourners had already stopped to leave flowers in the front yard.
    A neighbor, Jane Sherman, 64, described the Richard children as “very active, very normal American kids.” Ms. Sherman, a real estate agent, said she would often see the children playing outside the house.
    “They’re very happy-go-lucky kids,” she said. “All of Dorchester is devastated.”
    The boy’s father, Bill Richard, returned home around 10:30 p.m. on Monday, Ms. Sherman said. “He was white as a sheet,” she said.
    Ms. Sherman said she went to his house and asked him if everything was all right, but he did not respond. A friend who was with him then told Ms. Sherman that Martin had died in the attack, she said.
    She recalled on Tuesday that the Richard family had been skiing together over the winter. As for Dorchester, she said, it is a “very diverse, wonderful, family-oriented neighborhood.”


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    It's understandable that people are desperately seeking answers to questions such as "Who?" and "Why?", but jumping to conclusions en-masse about such events as a middle-eastern man fleeing the scene and an unidentified man on a roof is regrettable. Justice should be the priority, not knee-jerk speculation saturating the media.

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    The New York Post gets the prize for the most inaccurate reporting:

    Their lead headline: "12 dead, nearly 50 injured in two massive explosions rock race finish line in Boston, law enforcement sources confirm."

    And: "Authorities have a identified a suspect, a Saudi national, who is currently being guarded in a Boston hospital with shrapnel wounds."

    Besides the inaccurate casualties, the bombs were deadly, but not massive. There was little damage to buildings. The Saudi man was not called a suspect, and after a search of his apartment, no longer a "person of interest." He was being treated for burns, not shrapnel wounds.

    The Post seems to have made up a lot of this from what people already knew. The tabloid is a rag.

    About the man on the roof, the Daily News stated: There is no evidence that the shadowy figure has any involvement in the attack.

    Technically correct, but why did the call him a shadowy figure. That evokes a sinister image. It looks like there's a fence on that roof, so there may be a terrace or garden up there.

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    I'm guilty of reading the Post most days but truthfully only for it's decent sports section (my Nexus is set to default open on Sports). The paper loves nothing better than to monger fear, I'd go so far as to suggest some of their ravings smell fascist. Put your flag up, bar your windows and be afraid of anyone who looks different. They wanted sooo badly for the Saudi national to be guilty of something when it was fairly evident from the outset that it was the work of a lone-wolf radical or homegrown freak.

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    I get the sense that the Post is what the rest of News Corp wishes it could be. In fact the cable news division often comes dangerously close.

    But you're right, they do have a decent sports page.

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    Commentary in The New Yorker sums up the rush to judgement. That loudmouth cow Pamela Geller gets into the act, but I refuse to visit her smelly Atlas Shrugged.

    April 17, 2013

    The Saudi Marathon Man

    Posted by Amy Davidson

    A twenty-year-old man who had been watching the Boston Marathon had his body torn into by the force of a bomb. He wasn’t alone; a hundred and seventy-six people were injured and three were killed. But he was the only one who, while in the hospital being treated for his wounds, had his apartment searched in “a startling show of force,” as his fellow-tenants described it to the Boston Herald, with a “phalanx” of officers and agents and two K9 units. He was the one whose belongings were carried out in paper bags as his neighbors watched; whose roommate, also a student, was questioned for five hours (“I was scared”) before coming out to say that he didn’t think his friend was someone who’d plant a bomb—that he was a nice guy who liked sports. “Let me go to school, dude,” the roommate said later in the day, covering his face with his hands and almost crying, as a Fox News producer followed him and asked him, again and again, if he was sure he hadn’t been living with a killer.

    Why the search, the interrogation, the dogs, the bomb squad, and the injured man’s name tweeted out, attached to the word “suspect”? After the bombs went off, people were running in every direction—so was the young man. Many, like him, were hurt badly; many of them were saved by the unflinching kindness of strangers, who carried them or stopped the bleeding with their own hands and improvised tourniquets. “Exhausted runners who kept running to the nearest hospital to give blood,” President Obama said. “They helped one another, consoled one another,” Carmen Ortiz, the U.S. Attorney for Massachusetts, said. In the midst of that, according to a CBS News report, a bystander saw the young man running, badly hurt, rushed to him, and then “tackled” him, bringing him down. People thought he looked suspicious.

    What made them suspect him? He was running—so was everyone. The police reportedly thought he smelled like explosives; his wounds might have suggested why. He said something about thinking there would be a second bomb—as there was, and often is, to target responders. If that was the reason he gave for running, it was a sensible one. He asked if anyone was dead—a question people were screaming. And he was from Saudi Arabia, which is around where the logic stops. Was it just the way he looked, or did he, in the chaos, maybe call for God with a name that someone found strange?

    What happened next didn’t take long. “Investigators have a suspect—a Saudi Arabian national—in the horrific Boston Marathon bombings, The Post has learned.” That’s the New York Post, which went on to cite Fox News. The “Saudi suspect”—still faceless—suddenly gave anxieties a form. He was said to be in custody; or maybe his hospital bed was being guarded. The Boston police, who weren’t saying much of anything, disputed the report—sort of. “Honestly, I don’t know where they’re getting their information from, but it didn’t come from us,” a police spokesman said. But were they talking to someone? Maybe. “Person of interest” became a phrase of both avoidance and insinuation. On the Atlas Shrugs Web site, there was a note that his name in Arabic meant “sword.” At an evening press conference, Ed Davis, the police commissioner, said that no suspect was in custody. But that was about when the dogs were in the apartment building in Revere—an inquiry that was seized on by some as, if not an indictment, at least a vindication of their suspicions.

    “There must be enough evidence to keep him there,” Andrew Napolitano said on “Fox and Friends”—“there” being the hospital. “They must be learning information which is of a suspicious nature,” Steve Doocy interjected. “If he was clearly innocent, would they have been able to search his house?” Napolitano thought that a judge would take any reason at a moment like this, but there had to be “something”—maybe he appeared “deceitful.” As Mediaite pointed out, Megyn Kelly put a slight break on it (as she has been known to do) by asking if there might have been some “racial profiling,” but then, after a round of speculation about his visa (Napolitano: “Was he a real student, or was that a front?”), she asked, “What’s the story on his ability to lawyer up?”

    By Tuesday afternoon, the fever had broken. Report after report said that he was a witness, not a suspect. “He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time,” a “U.S. official” told CNN. (So were a lot of people at the marathon.) Even Fox News reported that he’d been “ruled out.” At a press conference, Governor Deval Patrick spoke, not so obliquely, about being careful not to treat “categories of people in uncharitable ways.”

    We don’t know yet who did this. “The range of suspects and motives remains wide open,” Richard Deslauriers of the F.B.I. said early Tuesday evening. In a minute, with a claim of responsibility, our expectations could be scrambled. The bombing could, for all we know, be the work of a Saudi man—or an American or an Icelandic or a person from any nation you can think of. It still won’t mean that this Saudi man can be treated the way he was, or that people who love him might have had to find out that a bomb had hit him when his name popped up on the Web as a suspect in custody. It is at these moments that we need to be most careful, not least.

    It might be comforting to think of this as a blip, an aberration, something that will be forgotten tomorrow—if not by this young man. There are people at Guanátanmo who have also been cleared by our own government, and are still there. A new report on the legacy of torture after 9/11, released Tuesday, is a well-timed admonition. The F.B.I. said that they would “go to the ends of the earth” to get the Boston perpetrators. One wants them to be able to go with their heads held high.

    “If you want to know who we are, what America is, how we respond to evil—that’s it. Selflessly. Compassionately. Unafraid,” President Obama said. That was mostly true on Monday; a terrible day, when an eight-year-old boy was killed, his sister maimed, two others dead, and many more in critical condition. And yet, when there was so much to fear that we were so brave about, there was panic about a wounded man barely out of his teens who needed help. We get so close to all that Obama described. What’s missing? Is it humility?

    © 2013 Condé Nast.

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    CNN reporting that a "suspect" has been identified from video analysis of footage from a nearby department store.

    Let's see how the cops do with their profiling mulligan.

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    Social media via civilian video or photogrpahic footage take before during and after the blast is being collected. My wish and desire for them to find this ghoul who did this will give me a renewed sense of appreciation of the technology we have available; which I sometimes find overbearing.

    http://www.nytimes.com/video/2013/04...00000002175944

    If it works and we find this garbage the only thing I want is to figure out a legal manner to amputate this knaves legs so that it suffers the same fate as its victims.

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    Official: Boston Marathon bomb suspect in custody

    DENISE LAVOIE - 6 minutes ago

    Investigators comb through the post finish line area of the Boston Marathon at Boylston Street, two days after two bombs exploded just before the finish line, Wednesday, April 17, 2013, in Boston. (AP Photo/Julio Cortez)
    BOSTON (AP) - A suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings was taken into custody Wednesday in a breakthrough that came less than 48 hours after the deadly attack, a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation said Wednesday.


    The official spoke shortly after several media outlets reported that a suspect had been identified from surveillance video taken at a Lord & Taylor store between the sites of the two bomb blasts, which killed three people and wounded more than 170.


    The official was not authorized to divulge details of the investigation and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. The suspect was expected at a Boston courthouse, the official said.


    A news briefing was scheduled later Wednesday.


    Law enforcement agencies had earlier pleaded for the public to come forward with photos, videos or any information that might help them solve the twin bombings.


    Investigators circulated information about the bombs, which involved kitchen pressure cookers packed with explosives, nails and other lethal shrapnel. But the FBI said nobody had claimed responsibility.


    A person close to the investigation had previously told AP the bombs consisted of explosives put in 1.6-gallon pressure cookers, one with shards of metal and ball bearings, the other with nails.


    Investigators in white jumpsuits had fanned out across the streets, rooftops and awnings around the blast site in search of clues on Wednesday. They combed through debris amid the toppled orange sports drink dispensers, trash cans and sleeves of plastic cups strewn across the street at the marathon's finish line.


    President Barack Obama branded the attack an act of terrorism. Obama plans to attend an interfaith service Thursday in the victims' honor in Boston.


    Scores of victims of the Boston bombing remained in hospitals, many with grievous injuries. Doctors who treated the wounded corroborated reports that the bombs were packed with shrapnel intended to cause mayhem. In addition to the 5-year-old child, a 9-year-old girl and 10-year-old boy were among 17 victims listed in critical condition.


    The trauma surgery chief at Boston Medical Center says most of the injuries his hospital treated after the marathon bombings were to the legs.


    "We have a lot of lower extremity injuries, so I think the damage was low to the ground and wasn't up," Dr. Peter Burke said. "The patients who do have head injuries were blown into things or were hit by fragments that went up."


    Dozens of patients have been released from hospitals around the Boston area.


    At Massachusetts General Hospital, all four amputations performed there were above the knee, with no hope of saving more of the legs, said Dr. George Velmahos, chief of trauma surgery.


    "It wasn't a hard decision to make," he said Tuesday. "We just completed the ugly job that the bomb did."


    The bombs exploded 10 or more seconds apart, tearing off victims' limbs and spattering streets with blood. The blasts near the finish line instantly turned the festive race into a hellish scene of confusion, horror and heroics.


    The blasts killed 8-year-old Martin Richard, of Boston, and 29-year-old Krystle Campbell, of Medford. The Shenyang Evening News, a state-run Chinese newspaper, identified the third victim as Lu Lingzi. She was a graduate student at Boston University.


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    Associated Press writers Jay Lindsay, Pat Eaton-Robb, Steve LeBlanc, Bridget Murphy, Rodrique Ngowi and Meghan Barr in Boston; Eileen Sullivan, Julie Pace and Lara Jakes in Washington; Paisley Dodds in London; Lee Keath in Cairo; and Marilynn Marchione in Milwaukee contributed to this report along with investigative researcher Randy Herschaft in New York.

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    ^ The AP has been running this as an alert on my ipad for more than half an hour, but several other sources are contracting it (eg, cnn) or claiming it cannot be confirmed (eg wsj).

    The FBI does apparently have a strong lead based on video footage.

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    Last I heard on the news, about an hour & a half ago, there was a suspect but he was not in custody. Someone (no description) dropping a black backpack and walking away. Just saw this on MSN:

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...last-site?lite

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    Seems like these could be the killers:
    http://imgur.com/a/f2iNp

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    ^ These images appear to have been sourced from a reddit page, but the participants there are now denying that these men are involved.


    Media Outlets, please stop making the images of potential suspects go viral, then blaming this small subreddit for it. And read the rules we've imposed before calling us 'vigilantes'.(self.findbostonbombers)submitted 8 hours ago* by oops777[M]
    Until the media got involved, none of the images were going anywhere but to the FBI.
    Every single article on this subreddit so far reads like the writer took a glance at the front page then wrote an article about it, we explicitly have a list of rules to stop "witch hunts" but that doesn't stop ignorant people like Wired's Ian Steadman from posting ignorant things like this image: http://i.imgur.com/JdLTf7b.png
    Edit:
    News outlets have spread images on TV & in papers of two male 'suspects' that they say the FBI is looking for, these have now gone viral. That media, is what a witch hunt is.
    These suspects appear now to be local guys and not involved.


    http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers




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    Irresponsible to post images of recognizable people, and call them murder suspects.

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    I'm guessing that any recent - in store or online - purchases of two or more pressure cookers is being gathered. Not the sort of item you buy two of.

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