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    Default One Vandam - 180 Sixth Avenue, Soho - BKSK Architects

    Could find this anywhere else.

    Very nice.


    Glassy One Vandam Will Land in Soho, Begin Sales this Fall

    by Sara Polsky



    Developers Quinlan Development Group and Tavros Development Partners already courted controversy with their decision to buy up $4 million worth of air rights from God's Love We Deliver, the non-profit next door. But that was just act one of the developers' plans for Soho, and we, at least, are bracing for act two. Because this is the rendering—available on the shiny new teaser website—of the 14-story building (though that first floor is double-height) Quinlan and Tavros are planning to use those air rights to build at 180 Sixth Avenue. The building, between Prince and Spring streets, will be called One Vandam.

    BKSK Architects are the architects responsible for the limestone and glass facade. Behind that facade will be 25 condo units, one-bedrooms through five-bedrooms, between 1,000 and 5,000 square feet in size. The amenities will include a common landscaped terrace on the second floor.

    There's no information yet on pricing, but sales will launch sometime this fall. Closings should begin in the first quarter of 2015.

    Teaser site: One Vandam [onevandam.com]
    SoHo Nonprofit’s Expansion Upsets Some Neighbors [NYT]
    180 Sixth Avenue coverage [Curbed]

    http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/0..._this_fall.php

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    The property is in SoHo, but Vandam is not, or at least it didn't used to be.

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    The building's name is a bit confusing. On a map it appears to be on the east side of Sixth Avenue, just inside Soho, with Vandam ending on the west side of Sixth Avenue. Just scraped in?

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    It is on the east side of 6th Ave.

    Real estate marketing, like saying 3rd Ave is in Park Slope.

    This area has always been regarded as part of the Village; little if any relationship to SoHo.



    Confusion on Sullivan and Prince

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    They've been digging at the site for several weeks.

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    From Wikipedia (edited):

    Western boundary
    Although the SoHo Alliance, Manhattan Community Board 2 and the Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation (GVSHP) all agree that the western boundary of SoHo north of Broome Street ends at West Broadway, some have claimed that the current understanding of the neighborhood extends west to the Avenue of the Americas (Sixth Avenue), an area that has traditionally been considered part of the South Village, which does not share the same zoning and lacks the cast-iron architecture that characterizes SoHo. [12]

    12. Neighborhoods in New York City do not have official status, and their boundaries are not specifically set by the city. (There are a number of Community Boards, whose boundaries are officially set, but these are fairly large and in general contain a number of neighborhoods, and the neighborhood map issued by the Department of City Planning only shows the largest ones.) Because of this, the definition of where neighborhoods begin and end is subject to a variety of forces, including the efforts of real estate concerns to promote certain areas, the use of neighborhood names in media news reports, and the everyday usage of people.
    Isn't it perhaps just that The Soho Cast Iron Historic District itself particularly doesn't include the area west of West Broadway?

    I was using Manhattan Block by Block by John Tauranac, 2005.

    Anyway...apart from all the confusion about the location, I still think it's going to be a great looking building, based on the rendering .

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    I'm glad this site is finally getting built on after all these years.

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    Sixth Avenue from Houston down to Canal will be an entirely different place within 5 or so years. Father Fagan Square, just north of this site at Prince, is on the path to getting a makeover (nothing radical, but welcomed). Then there's this new glass slab, and next door the taste-free & unpopular God's Love We Deliver vertical expansion metallic project (coming soon). Plus the new residential building set to rise on the car wash triangle at 124 Sixth just north of Broome. Across Sixth at Grand we'll get Trinity's biggest prize following the recent Hudson Square Rezoning: a SHoP designed tower with school on the now vacant mega lot at Sixth / Canal / Varick / Grand.

    The lots at the NE corner of Sixth & Canal are ripe for redevelopment. That patch is outside of the SoHo landmarked district (and wasn't included in the 2010 SoHo HD expansion that covered much of the west side of West Broadway). Granted that the frontage along Canal is dotted with what some might call "crap" - but it could be easily argued that a few of those buildings from 381 - 385 Canal near West Broadway should be saved (but at this point that's unlikely). Looking over property records for 381 - 395 Canal, it seems that all the individual properties are owned by unrelated owners (and by the look of things it doesn't seem to be a homogenous & cooperative group).

    Goggle Map of that site at Sixth & Canal

    Streetview of Sixth & Canal looking NE: http://goo.gl/maps/LJIyG

    Streetview of the same block front from one block east at West Broadway: http://goo.gl/maps/Gf9bA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    Isn't it perhaps just that The Soho Cast Iron Historic District itself particularly doesn't include the area west of West Broadway?
    Sometimes historic districts are remnants of larger neighborhoods, but I don't think that's the case with SoHo.

    In the later part of the 19th century, light manufacturing and dry goods moved into the area, centered on Broadway (there's was no 6th Ave), and built the loft buildings. As the city expanded northward, these industries moved with it, and the area declined.

    The SoHo part of the district name wasn't coined until the 1960s - when artists began to move into the abandoned loft spaces - by Chester Rapkin, in his report for the City Planning Commission, The South Houston Industrial Area

    101 Spring Street is a proto-loft building, an example of the minimalist live/work spaces made fashionable by artists, who pioneered the idea of loft living as a form of adaptive reuse that is now a standard and desirable residential style.
    http://urbanomnibus.net/2013/06/livi...iron-district/

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    When I lived west of Sixth there ('89/90) it was still called part of the Printing District. I couldn't get away with calling it SoHo, and South Village hadn't been invented yet. Brokers (as usual) went crazy with the renaming.

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    In DollyLenzWorld, property values always dictate what neighborhood you're in.

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    Yes. In a town where Gramercy Park goes up to 32nd St., anything's possible.

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    Construction at 180 Sixth did some damage next door at the old 188 Sixth earlier this week, causing cracks in the old foundation and some movement in the old structure. After tenants were evacuated from 188-192 Sixth, DOB & FDNY officials surveyed the area and claimed it was nothing severe, stating that old brick buildings are "ductile" and therefore movement is expected, so folks were allowed to return to their homes. Also stated that they'll continue to monitor the work.

    Locals have raised the issue of construction concerns & possible problems for nearby buildings since this one was first announced. Problems were detected two days before the evacuation (doors wouldn't open, interiors had shifted) and notice about those concerns was sent to the developer & Triton Construction, both of which said, "Don't Worry" and kept digging around the old foundation, basically ignoring the warnings (word on the street is that the monitoring equipment placed on the old building to track shifting had a big spike two days earlier). During the evacuation period, when a question about that prior notice of problems was raised by a reporter, the Press Rep for FDNY barked out, "Last Question" and the DOB rep sidestepped the answer.

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    Business as usual -

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    Business as usual here thanks to local council member Christine Quinn, who pushed this plan through the CPC, but failed to install really adequate construction monitoring & mitigation plans. Despite calls to her office during the 5 hours tenant evacuation, she failed to show up to check with her constituents.

    Maybe she had a job interview.

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