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    Default London tower partially melts Jaguar.

    From the NY Times via Reuters:

    A cluster of new skyscrapers transforming the London skyline are often blamed for spoiling the view. Now one has been accused of “melting” a car. A motorist said the intense sunlight reflected from the “Walkie Talkie” — one of several flashy towers under construction in the historic financial district — had warped his Jaguar, which he had parked across the street. The skyscraper’s developers said they were seeking to rectify the problem, which they blamed on the position of the sun at certain times of day. “The phenomenon is caused by the current elevation of the sun in the sky. It currently lasts for approximately two hours per day, with initial modeling suggesting that it will be present for approximately two-three weeks,” Land Securities and Canary Wharf Group said in a statement. Three parking spaces had been taken out of service pending a solution, it added. The car’s owner, Martin Lindsay, told the BBC that he had left his car for an hour and returned to find that the side mirror, panels and Jaguar badge had “melted.” The 37-story building has been nicknamed the “Walkie Talkie” after its distinctive shape, which appears to expand outward at the top.

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    interesting. no pictures?

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    The walkie-scorchie fryscraper! One of the hottest spots on the planet.... The thermometer went off the scale apparently.

    chest over at skyscrapercity.com (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=9568) took some nice images.


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    So the building is essentially a giant solar energy concentrator lens

    I find it curious though that only the Jaguar has reported such problems of its car melting. Who would have thought that Jaguars would have been made of substandard materials compared to say, a Honda

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    I'm guessing it depends on where you're parked, and possibly a specific time of year, like Stonehenge. Jag I'm guessing (again) is part fiberglass.

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    Today I read that the architect is blaming the consultants, who are said to have usurped essential design decisions.

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    Uh huh...

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    I'm in London right now and everybody is making jokes about this. On the news they said fins which were designed for the facade and supposed to minimize the amount of rays were reduced to save money. Among many reports, people were cooking eggs in the light rays, parts of a Jaguar were melted and the doormat of a shop was smoking. The Jag was parked in one of three parking spots that had to be closed.
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    As the sun moves during the year will they have to adjust which parking spots are off limits?

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    Default Blame it on the sun!

    I bet they redo those fins.

    From Gaurdian.co.uk -

    The architect of the Walkie Talkie building in London has admitted that he predicted it might reflect hot sun rays to the street below but "didn't realise it was going to be so hot".
    Visiting London this week, Rafael Viñoly said the original design of the building had featured horizontal sun louvres on its south-facing facade , but these are believed to have been removed during cost-cutting as the project developed.
    "We made a lot of mistakes with this building," admitted Viñoly, "and we will take care of it."
    The 37-storey building at 20 Fenchurch Street in London's financial district has a distinctive shape – widening as it reaches the top – which led to its being nicknamed the Walkie Talkie.
    But it was this week renamed the Walkie Scorchie when it was found that the concave shape of the building was channelling the sun's rays into a concentrated beam onto Eastcheap, capable of singeing carpets, blistering paintwork and even melting parts of a car's bodywork. One cafe in the focus of the building's glare even managed to toast a baguette and fry an egg outside their shop.
    "I knew this was going to happen," said Viñoly, speaking to the Guardian on Friday. "But there was a lack of tools or software that could be used to analyse the problem accurately."
    "When it was spotted on a second design iteration, we judged the temperature was going to be about 36 degrees," he said. "But it's turned out to be more like 72 degrees. They are calling it the 'death ray', because if you go there you might die. It is phenomenal, this thing."
    A two-storey scaffolding structure covered in netting has now been erected in the street to absorb the concentrated rays, while three parking spaces have been suspended. The developers, Land Securities and Canary Wharf group, say they are "continuing to evaluate longer-term solutions."
    The architect has a track record of creating buildings that burn. His Vdara hotel in Las Vegas, with a similarly concave form, focused sunlight onto the pool terrace in 2010, hot enough to melt loungers and singe guests' hair. The glass has since been covered in non-reflective film.
    "That was a completely different problem," said Viñoly, insisting he was following a masterplan that specified arc-shaped towers. "We pointed out that would be an issue too, but who cares if you fry somebody in Las Vegas, right?"
    In London, he said the issue was the result of the nature of the development process in the UK, in which the architect is often sidelined.
    "One problem that happens in this town, is the super-abundance of consultancies and sub-consultancies that dilute the responsibility of the designer," he said, "to the point that you just don't know where you are any more."
    The developers have blamed the problem on "the current elevation of the sun in the sky," a position Viñoly seems inclined to share.
    "When I first came to London years ago, it wasn't like this," he said. "Now you have all these sunny days. So you should blame this thing on global warming too, right?"
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