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    Cool apparent kayak accident in Hudson : or Murder?

    This is a bizarre story about a guy who drown in the Hudson River recently: he was out with his girlfriend Kayaking. I am truly puzzled how she could be charged with murder because of 'inconsistency' in her account of the incident. I want to follow this story: anyone car to join me.... http://nypost.com/2015/04/30/woman-c...king-accident/

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    “Some inconsistencies in the accounts that she gave of those last minutes led investigators to be suspicious,” said State Police Maj. Patrick Regan.
    “She made statements that implicated herself in the crime,” he added, stopping short of calling it a confession.
    The “inconsistencies” in the story she told investigators Wednesday prompted them to make the arrest even though they haven’t found Viafore’s body, officials said.
    Graswald was arraigned in New Windsor and is being held without bail at the Orange County Jail.
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    This is a story in which someone lost their life, and a possible murder. Nothing to be gleeful about here.

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    I don't get the glee part. It's a reminder if you're ever questioned by the police, ask for a lawyer the minute you feel pressed or if they get rude.

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    I know the water conditions in that section of the Hudson River. The water temp would have been 65 -70 degrees, the current running fast in choppy, cold water, and no life jacket. It is nearly impossible to get back into a kayak once it has capsized: he would have succumbed to hypothermia in about 30 minuets. I don't think there is much his girlfriend could have done to help him: I am puzzled by the murder charges. If there were inconsistency in her story, it may be because she feels she did not do enough to help save him; and may be telling some half truth about exactly what she did at the time of the capsize. I want to know more about this story; and hope this girl gets justice, as I believe she likely innocent.

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    succumbed to hypothermia in 30 minutes in 65-70 degree water...seriously?!
    http://www.usps.org/national/ensign/...ypothermia.htm

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    River temp in April would not be 70, closer to 50.

    http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/uv...14,00062,00010

    ETA: NYTimes article stated that the water temp that day was 46.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/01/ny...dent.html?_r=0
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    So a minimum of an hour.

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    I don't think the water temperature, or choppy waters, or how long it took him to die are relevant as to the charge.

    The DA doesn't think it's criminal negligence; the charge is 2nd degree murder - that she willfully caused his death.

    We're not going to figure this out until the evidence that led to the charge is released.

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    I just found out the water temp was 55 degrees: hypothermia would set in very fast at that temp. I look forward to hearing reason for charging her: as opposed to this being a case where they both did not understand the dangers of the elements.

    So, this - as zippy say's - is a wait and see thing righ now. There is little news on this now, but I am watching for more testimonial from the girlfriend: and will keep this thread updated.

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    If she's smart she'll keep her mouth shut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stache View Post
    If she's smart she'll keep her mouth shut.
    She is a Russian girl; pardon my cultural stereotype - but their usually pretty smart.... LOL

    Here is a link to a blog with some more coverage on the story; I was also surprised to see the story featured on Nancy Grace tonight. http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2015/05/w...on-the-hudson/

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    http://hudsonvalley.news12.com/news/...ase-1.10386011

    Grand jury indicts Angelica Graswald in the missing kayaker case. I am now wondering why the body has not turned up or been found during the search efforts. I believe, on the basis of wild speculation, that this was an accident. That being said; if the body is not found there will surly be accusations that she staged the accident; and her boyfriend was never on the river in the first place.
    I know that we have to wait till some more information is released to the public: but this incident seems to be a non-event in the media. I see plenty of news coverage on far more trivial events: don't know what some stories spark wide spread public interest, and other fall by the way side.

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    'People' magazine got an "exclusive" interview with Angelica: so much for our advice she: keep her mouth shut.

    http://www.people.com/article/kayake...d-hudson-river

    This story may take on some degree of sensationalism similar to the Amanda Knox story.
    This is the oddest reader comment from people magazine: scroll down from the article to read the rest. READER Comment excerpt - "Clearly? If you say so. The Russian mob sends women over here under that guise to put their hooks in the men they trap."
    Last edited by infoshare; May 6th, 2015 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infoshare View Post
    keep her mouth shut.
    Or she'll let us know if we should change the thread title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    Or she'll let us know if we should change the thread title.
    Good point. There is definitely a 'presumption of innocence' in that title. For the sake of at least 'appearing' impartial, I should change it anyway - otherwise I am just 'leading the jury' in the court of public opinion. HeHe

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