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    August 6, 2003

    Deal Is Sought on Plan for Train to Meadowlands

    By ROBERT HANLEY

    HACKENSACK, N.J., Aug. 5 — New Jersey officials say they are trying to reach an agreement on a proposal to bring train service to the Meadowlands Sports Complex.

    "We think that rail service is an imperative part of the transportation plan, or we're going to have widespread traffic problems," said George R. Zoffinger, president of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority, which operates the complex.

    Mr. Zoffinger said the service was urgently needed now because of the plan to construct a 100-acre, $1.3 billion family entertainment and office complex, Meadowlands Xanadu, near Continental Airlines Arena, on the eastern side of the complex.

    Officials hope to reach an agreement on a $470 million rail plan and then to seek money for it. The activity on the proposal was first reported today in The Record, of Hackensack.

    For years, football, basketball and hockey games have caused traffic snarls on roadways around the complex, and construction on the Xanadu project is scheduled to start late this year or early in 2004, he said.

    Talks involve the authority, New Jersey Transit, the State Department of Transportation, local and Bergen County officials, businesses in the Meadowlands, and the two companies planning to build Xanadu: the Mills Corporation, a mall developer based in Virginia, and the Mack-Cali Realty Corporation, an office developer in Cranford, N.J.

    Officials said today that the parties were attempting to reach a consensus on the location of railroad tracks into the complex and on improvements to nearby roadways.

    If the current rail proposal is approved, train passengers from throughout the northern half of New Jersey, Midtown Manhattan and Orange and Rockland Counties in southern New York would have direct access to the sports complex.

    Service this broad will be made possible, in large part, by the opening next month of a new multimillion-dollar railroad hub, the Secaucus Transfer, a few miles east of the complex in Secaucus. Nearly all of New Jersey Transit's commuter trains will pass through the depot, and it will allow thousands of rail commuters to transfer to trains to and from Manhattan for the first time.

    The rail plan under discussion calls for construction in two phases. The first provides for creation of a $150 million, 1.5-mile rail link from the existing Pascack Valley Line, situated west of the complex, to a new elevated station in an existing parking lot between Giants Stadium and the Meadowlands Racetrack.

    The second phase calls for a $320 million, 1.1-mile set of elevated tracks between the new station in the Meadowlands and the Secaucus Transfer, said George D. Warrington, executive director of New Jersey Transit.

    "This is a plan that's workable," Mr. Warrington said. "It's practical. It's affordable, and, most importantly, it solves a potentially significant transportation problem."

    Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

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    "Meadowlands Xanadu"

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    Quote: from Christian Wieland on 3:46 am on Aug.

    ..train passengers from throughout the northern half of New Jersey, Midtown Manhattan and Orange and Rockland Counties in southern New York would have direct access to the sports complex
    That would be awesome. New Yorkers could really use a train service to Giants stadium. Better than relying on the bus.

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    A good idea overall, but buses aren't the problem at football games. It's the tailgate culture.

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    Wasn't Xanadu an '80s movie musical starring Olivia Newton-John?

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    Yes - harmlessly awful.
    The moderators may pounce on us for going off-topic.

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    What about lower manhattan? They could add a link from the new transportation center... since they *haven't finished building it they can add things like this.

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    "What about lower manhattan? They could add a link from the new transportation center... since they *haven't finished building it they can add things like this."

    If we didn't have the tangle of agencies that we do, something like that would probably be included. *I believe this is an NJ Transit project, though Amtrak may have some trains stop there. *PATH is a totally different kind of train (subway vs. commuter) and is owned by the Port Authority.

    They've been building this thing since the mid-nineties, it's a little late *to change it. *The PATH does come tantalizingly close, though. *Hoboken and Harrison are not far away. *You'll just have to switch trains at Newark or Hoboken, like you do now, but it'll be quicker.

    I do believe the develpers have future expansions in mind, so you kind rule it out entirely.

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    Since they're referring to the Secaucus Transfer Station as being involved in the extension, it is most definitely a Jersey Transit project.

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    Perhaps we need a "Department of Homeland Trains" to sort out everything between the different agencies
    Hey, it just might work.

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    I'm all aboard that train - make it happen! The bus is inadequate. One brings you right up to the stadium, but the traffic is a nightmare. Another drops you off far away, and though it doesn't deal with the stadium traffic jam, you have to walk for a half hour. And neither allows you to bring a cooler, grill, canopy, or whatever........

    Of course there's the car, but it now costs $15 to park it (and I hear it's going up again), and you still have to deal with the traffic - not to mention curtailing the beer drinking.

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    Secaucus transfer station photos, check they are on pages 6 and 7 of the link.

    Note..

    The pictures are of the Lower Level platforms, Bergen, Main, Pascack Valley lines.

    The upper level is the North East Corridor, platforms are within the building.

    [http://www.railfanwindow.com/gallery/album22?page=6]

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    I say they use the Hudson-Bergen Lightrail. There was talk about an extension out of Newport Mall thorugh the abandoned Bergen Arches and use that to get out to the sports complex, but I don't know whats happened to the talks.

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    With sporting events and the Olympics in mind, it would have to be NJ Transit. *The Light Rail is only Intra-state and doesn't have the capcity.

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    How about extending the Hoboken PATH train to the sports complex. *It seems silly that there is only one stop on that line anyways. *Create a second stop in Hoboken, a stop in JC Heights, and a stop at the sports complex. *Oh wait, that makes too much sense, they will never do that. *That would bring direct mass trasit to too many thousands of people...

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