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    Also, close to million Iraqis lost their lives.. Bush brags about being a Christian.. If so, what happened to " THY SHALL NOT KILL "...

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    It's not exactly like the Iraqis aren't killing each other - and with gusto.

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    The Big Dick at Year 5 ...

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    Death Toll at 4,000
    Six of the Fallen, in Words They Sent Home

    NY TIMES
    By LIZETTE ALVAREZ and ANDREW W. LEHREN
    March 25, 2008

    By the time Specialist Jerry Ryen King decided to write about his experiences in Iraq, the teenage paratrooper had more to share than most other soldiers.

    In two operations to clear the outskirts of the village of Turki in the deadly Diyala Province, Specialist King and the rest of the Fifth Squadron faced days of firefights, grenade attacks and land mines. Well-trained insurgents had burrowed deep into muddy canals, a throwback to the trenches of World War I. As the fighting wore on, B-1 bombers and F-16s were called in to drop a series of powerful bombs.

    Once the area was clear of insurgents, the squadron, part of the 82nd Airborne Division, uncovered hidden caches of weapons.

    Two months later, Specialist King, a handsome former honors student and double-sport athlete from Georgia, sat down at his computer. In informal but powerful prose, he began a journal.

    After 232 long, desolate, morose, but somewhat days of tranquility into deployment, I’ve decided that I should start writing some of the things I experienced here in Iraq. I have to say that the events that I have encountered here have changed my outlook on life ...

    The most recent mission started out as a 24-36 hour air-assault sniper mission in a known al-Qaida stronghold just north of Baghdad. We landed a few hours before daybreak and as soon as I got off the helicopter my night vision broke, I was surrounded by the sound of artillery rounds, people screaming in Arabic, automatic weapons, and the terrain didn’t look anything like what we were briefed. I knew it was going to be a bad day and a half.


    Jerry Ryen King, journal entry, March 7, 2007
    A month later, Specialist King was sitting inside his combat outpost, an abandoned school in Sadah, when suicide bombers exploded two dump trucks just outside the building. The school partly collapsed, killing Specialist King on April 23, 2007, along with eight other soldiers, and making the blast one of the most lethal for Americans fighting in Iraq.

    In that instant, Specialist King became one of 4,000 service members and Defense Department civilians to die in the Iraq war — a milestone that was reached late Sunday, five years since the war began in March 2003. The last four members of that group, like the majority of the most recent 1,000 to die, were killed by an improvised explosive device, known as an I.E.D. They died at 10 p.m. Sunday on a patrol in Baghdad, military officials said; their names have not yet been released.

    The next day we cleared an area that made me feel as if I were in Vietnam. Honestly, it was one of the scariest times of my life. At one point I was in water up to my waist and heard an AK fire in my direction. But all in all the day was going pretty good, no one was hurt, I got to shoot a few rounds, toss a grenade, and we were walking to where the helicopter was supposed to pick us up.

    Jerry Ryen King, journal entry, March 7, 2007
    The year 2007 would prove to be especially hard on American service members; more of them died last year than in any other since the war began. Many of those deaths came in the midst of the 30,000-troop buildup known as “the surge,” the linchpin of President Bush’s strategy to tamp down widespread violence between Islamic Sunnis and Shiites, much of it in Baghdad. In April, May and June alone, 331 American service members died, making it the war’s deadliest three-month period.

    But by fall, the strategy, bolstered by new alliances with Sunni tribal chiefs and a decision by the Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr to order his militia to stop fighting, appeared to be paying off as the country entered a period of relative calm. Military casualties and Iraqi civilian deaths fell, and the October-December period produced the fewest casualties of any three months of the war. The past month, though, has seen an uptick in killings and explosions, particularly suicide bombings. The violence has traveled north to Mosul, where the group calling itself Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia remains strong.

    Everything changed in a matter of 15 minutes... About the time I was opening my MRE (meal ready to eat) I heard an explosion. Everyone started running towards the sound of the explosion. Apparently a suicide bomber had blown himself up killing four soldiers from my squadron and injuring another. Our 36 hour mission turned into another air-assault into a totally different city, the clearing of it, and 5 more days. We did find over 100 RPG’s, IED making materials, insurgents implacing IED’s, artillery rounds, a sniper rifle, and sort of like a terrorist training book and cd’s.

    Jerry Ryen King, journal entry, March 7, 2007
    Unlike the soldiers of some previous wars, who were only occasionally able to send letters back home to loved ones, many of those who died left behind an extraordinary electronic testimony describing in detail the labor, the fears and the banality of serving in Iraq.

    In excerpts published here from journals, blogs and e-mail, six soldiers who died in the most recent group of 1,000 mostly skim the alarming particulars of combat, a kindness shown their relatives and close friends. Instead, they plunge readily into the mundane, but no less important rhythms of home. They fire off comments about holiday celebrations, impending weddings, credit card bills, school antics and the creeping anxiety of family members who are coping with one deployment too many.

    At other moments, the service members describe the humor of daily life down range, as they call it. Hurriedly, with little time to worry about spelling or grammar, they riff on the chaos around them and reveal moments of fear. As casualties climb and the violence intensifies, so does their urge to share their grief and foreboding.

    A Last Goodbye

    Hey beautiful well we were on blackout again, we lost yet some more soldiers. I cant wait to get out of this place and return to you where i belong. I dont know how much more of this place i can take. i try to be hard and brave for my guys but i dont know how long i can keep that up you know. its like everytime we go out, any little bump or sounds freaks me out. maybe im jus stressin is all. hopefully ill get over it ....

    you know, you never think that anything is or can happen to you, at first you feel invincible, but then little by little things start to wear on you ...

    well im sure well be able to save a couple of bucks if you stay with your mom .... and at the same time you can help her with some of the bills for the time being. it doesnt bother me. as long as you guys are content is all that matters. I love and miss you guys like crazy. I know i miss both of you too. at times id like to even just spend 1 minute out of this nightmare just to hold and kiss you guys to make it seem a little bit easier. im sure he will like whatever you get him for xmas, and i know that as he gets older he’ll understand how things work. well things here always seem to be ...... uhm whats the word ..... interesting i guess you can say. you never know whats gonna happen and thats the worst part. do me a favor though, when you go to my sisters or moms or wherever you see my family let them know that i love them very much..ok? well i better get going, i have a lot of stuff to do. but hopefully ill get to hear from you pretty soon.*muah* and hugs. tell mijo im proud of him too!

    love always,
    your other half


    Juan Campos, e-mail message to his wife,
    Dec. 12, 2006
    When Staff Sgt. Juan Campos, 27, flew from Baghdad to Texas for two weeks last year, there was more on his mind than rest and relaxation. He visited his father’s grave, which he had never seen. He spent time with his grandparents and touched base with the rest of his rambling, extended family.

    The day he was scheduled to return to war, Sergeant Campos and his wife went out dancing and drinking all evening with friends. Calm and reserved by nature, Sergeant Campos could out-salsa and out-hip-hop most anyone on the dance floor. At the airport, his wife, Jamie Campos, who had grown used to the upheaval of deployment, surprised herself.

    “I cried and I have never ever cried before,” said Mrs. Campos, 26, who has a 9-year-old son, Andre. “It was just really, really weird. He knew, and I kind of knew. It felt different.”

    “We both felt that it was the last goodbye,” she said.

    Tuesday, Oct. 3, 2006
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    The life of an infantryman is never safe..how do I know, well I live it every day.


    I lost a good friend of mine just two days ago to an enemy sniper. The worst feeling in the world is having lost one of your own and not being able to fight back. The more I go on patrol, the more alert I tend to be, but regardless of the situation here in Iraq is that we are never safe. No matter the countermeasures we take to prevent any attacks. They seem to seep through the cracks. Every day a soldier is lost or wounded by enemy attacks. I for one would like to make it home to my family one day. Pray for us and keep us in your thoughts...for an infantryman’s life is never safe.

    Juan Campos, Myspace blog

    Sergeant Campos, a member of the First Battalion, 26th Infantry, Charlie Company out of Germany, was one of thousands of infantrymen assigned to stabilize Baghdad and the surrounding areas last year during the troop buildup. Troops were sent deep into insurgent neighborhoods, where they lived in small outposts, patrolled on foot, cleared houses, mingled with Iraqis and rebuilt the infrastructure.

    The extra 30,000 service members — 160,000 in all — were deployed to Iraq to help quell the runaway violence that threatened large-scale civil war. Most soldiers spent 15 months in Iraq, a length of time that military commanders have said is unsustainable. Many had fought in the war at least once. A few had been in Iraq multiple times.

    My only goals are to make it out of this place alive and return you guys and make you as happy as I can.

    Juan Campos, e-mail message to his wife
    Dec. 15, 2006

    But to Sergeant Campos and the rest of Charlie Company in Adhamiya, a north Baghdad stronghold for Sunni insurgents, the buildup seemed oddly invisible. The men patrolled almost every day, sometimes 16 to 18 hours a day for months, often in 120-degree weather. Exhaustion was too kind a word for their fatigue.

    More than 150 soldiers lived in a two-story house with portable toilets, no air-conditioning and temperamental showers. Sleep came only a few hours at a time. The fighting was vicious. Adhamiya was such a magnet for sectarian bloodletting that the military built a wall around it to contain the violence.

    “They walled us in and left us there,” Staff Sgt. Robin Johnson, 28, said of the 110 men in Charlie Company. “We were a family. I would die for these guys before I die for my own blood brother.”

    On patrol, sniper fire rang out so routinely that soldiers in Sergeant Campos’s platoon seldom stood still for more than four seconds. They scoured rooftops for Iraqi children who lobbed grenades at American soldiers for a handful of cash. Roadside bombs burst from inside drainage pipes, impossible to detect from the street. The bombs grew larger by the month.

    Last year, these powerful improvised explosive devices were responsible for a majority of American fatalities, a new milestone. The bombs also killed multiple soldiers more often than in the past, a testament to their potency.

    “It was the most horrible thing you could possibly imagine,” Sergeant Johnson said. “As soon as you left the gate, you could die at any second. If you went out for a day and you weren’t attacked, it was confusing.”

    Charlie Company soldiers found a steady stream of Iraqis killed by insurgents for money or revenge. Some had their faces wiped clean by acid. Others were missing their heads or limbs.

    ‘It Could Have Been Me’

    to tell the story of iraq is a hard one.

    Ryan Wood, Myspace blog

    Sgt. Ryan M. Wood, 22, a gifted artist, prolific writer and a sly romantic from Oklahoma, was also one of the bluntest soldiers inside Charlie Company.

    it is fighting extreme boredom with the lingering thought in the forefront of your mind that any minute on this patrol could be my last endeavour, only highlighted by times of such extreme terror and an adrenaline rush that no drug can touch. what [expletive] circumstances thinking “that should’ve been me” or “it could’ve been me”. wondering it that pile of trash will suddenly explode killing you or worse one of your beloved comrads..only backed by the past thoughts and experiences of really losing friends of yours and not feeling completely hopeless that it was all for nothing because all in all, you know the final outcome of this war. it is walking on that thin line between sanity and insanity. that feeling of total abandonment by a government and a country you used to love because politics are fighting this war......and its a losing battle....and we’re the ones ultimently paying the price.

    Ryan Wood, Myspace blog, Adhamiya

    For the soldiers in Iraq, reconciling Adhamiya with America was not always easy. One place was buried in garbage and gore and hopelessness. The other seemed unmoored from the war, fixated on the minutia of daily life and the hiccups of the famous. The media was content to indulge.

    What the Hell America??

    “What the hell happened?” any intelligent American might ask themselves throughout their day. While the ignorant, dragging themselves to thier closed off cubicle, contemplate the simple things in life such as “fast food tonight?” or “I wonder what motivated Brittany Spears to shave her unsightly, mishaped domepiece?”

    To the simpleton, this news might appear “devastating.” I assume not everyone thinks this way, but from my little corner of the earth, Iraq, a spot in the world a majority of Americans could’nt point out on the map, it certainly appears so. ... To all Americans I have but one phrase that helps me throughout my day of constant dangers and ever present death around the corner, “WHO THE [expletive] CARES!” Wow America, we have truly become a nation of self-absorbed retards. ... This world has serious problems and it’s time for America to start addressing them.

    Ryan Wood, Myspace blog, May 26, 2007

    The somberness of the job was hard to shake off. But, day to day, there was no more reliable antidote than Pfc. Daniel J. Agami, a South Floridian with biceps the size of cantaloupes, and Pfc. Ryan J. Hill, a self-described hellion who loved his “momma” and hailed from what he called the “felony flats” of Oregon. Funny men in the best sense of the word, the two provided a valuable and essential commodity in a war zone.

    Their mother jokes — the kind that begin, “your mother is so...” — were legendary, culminating in a Myspace joke-off. It ended abruptly after an enough-is-enough phone call from Private Hill’s mother, who ranked No. 1 on his list of heroes in Myspace. Private Agami proclaimed victory.

    About a month later...I went to my room and my mattress was missing and all my close were being worn by other people. I couldn’t figure it out so I knew right off the bat to go to Hill. I saw him walking down the hall wearing five of my winter jackets. He sold half my wardrobe right off his back to people in our company and my mattress was in someone else’s room. So then I had go to around and buy all my stuff back. (Now I think he won).

    Daniel J. Agami, Charlie Company. Eulogy sent via e-mail message to his mother, Jan. 29, 2007

    To keep their spirits up, combat soldiers learned to appreciate the incongruities of war in Iraq. Jokes scrawled inside a Port-o-Potty quickly made the rounds. Situational humor, from goofy to macabre, proved plentiful.

    A really girly guy who was a cheerleader in high school, got knocked down and nearly hurt by the wind of the helicopter. Listening to Dickson recite what was in every single MRE was pretty funny. A cow charged and nearly trampled one of my friends when we were raiding a compound. And lastly, I thought that it was pretty comical that I shot at a guy a long ways out but missed and later after taking his house and using it as a patrol base he offered me Chai and rice.

    Jerry Ryen King, Diyala Province

    Even a trip to the dentist, with its fringe benefits, is cause for amusement in a war zone.

    Last Sat. I had two of my wisdom teeth pulled. After taking double the prescribe percocot and morphine pills that the doctor gave me for the pain I decided to catch a flight back to my FOB (forward operation base). It was the coolest Blackhawk ride I’ve had, I was absolutely ripped and I talked the pilots into leaving the doors open. We had four more guys die a couple days ago. They hit an IED, it killed everyone in the humvee.. It’s starting to get a little scary. We made it our first six months with just two deaths and that was plenty. But now just in the past two and a half weeks we’ve had nine more guys get killed, and over 50 wounded. I’m just hoping that I can make it the 75 more days or so that we have left of combat operations before we start packing.

    Jerry Ryen King, journal entry, April 11, 2007

    Among the guys in Charlie Company, Private Agami, 25, was one of the boldest and most resilient. He was the kind of guy who joined an endurance ski contest on a whim. He came in fourth. He had never skied in his life.

    Private Agami had time for everyone, and everyone had time for him. Affectionately called G.I. Jew, he held his religion up to the light. He used it to build tolerance among the troops and shatter stereotypes; few in his unit had ever met a Jew. He flew the Israeli flag over his cot in Adhamiya. He painted the words Hebrew Hammer onto his rifle. He even managed to keep kosher, a feat that required a steady diet of protein shakes and cereal.

    Commander Mom, I cant wait to come home and when I do, dont worry ill have allot to say to the congregation. Dont worry about my mental stage either, we all receive counseling and help from doctors when something like this happens. I am a strong individual physically and mentally and if there is one thing the army teaches you, it is how to deal with death. Everyday that passes it gets easier and easier. I miss you guys very much and I love you!

    Daniel Agami, e-mail message to his mother,
    Oct. 28, 2006

    It did not get easier.

    I try not to cry. I have never cried this much my entire life. two great men got taken from us way too soon. i wonder why it was them in not me. I sit here right now wondering why did they go to the gates of heaven n not me. I try everynight count my blessing that I made it another day but why are we in this hell over here? why? i cant stop askin why?

    Ryan Hill, Myspace blog, Nov. 1, 2006.

    Private Hill was riding in a Humvee on Jan. 20, 2007, when an I.E.D. buried in the middle of the road detonated under his seat, killing him instantly.

    Sergeant Campos was riding in a Humvee on May 14, 2007, two weeks after returning from Texas, when it hit an I.E.D. The bomb lifted the Humvee five feet off the ground and engulfed it in flames. “That’s when we just left hope at the door,” Sergeant Johnson said. Severely burned over 80 percent of his body, Sergeant Campos lived two weeks. He died June 1. Another soldier, Pfc. Nicholas S. Hartge, 20, of Indiana, died in the same attack.

    Private Agami was driving a Bradley fighting vehicle on June 21, 2007, when it hit an I.E.D. The explosion flipped the 30-ton vehicle, which also carried Sergeant Wood. Both men were killed, along with three other soldiers and an Iraqi interpreter.

    “Obviously, it came to a point, you didn’t care anymore if it got better,” said Staff Sgt. Jeremy S. Rausch, 31, one of Sergeant Campos’s best friends in Charlie Company. “You didn’t care about the people because they didn’t care about themselves. We had already lost enough people that we just thought, you know, ‘why?’ ”

    During their time in Adhamiya, the soldiers of Charlie Company caught more than two dozen high-value targets, found nearly 50 weapons caches, detained innumerable insurgents and won countless combat awards. They lost 14 men. Their mission was hailed a success.

    Just in Case

    Texan to the core, enamored of the military, Specialist Daniel E. Gomez, 21, an Army combat medic in the division’s Alpha Company, relied on his books, his iPod and an Xbox to distract him from the swirl.

    strange but this place where we are at is unreal almost. I hope I come back mentally in shape. lol.

    Daniel Gomez, Myspace blog, Sept. 9, 2006

    He took pride in being the guy who tended to wounded soldiers under fire, patching them up to help them survive.

    As the violence intensified, Specialist Gomez set aside thoughts of a free Iraq or a safer America and, like generations of soldiers before him, simply started fighting for the soldier next to him.

    A few days ago I realized why I am here in Baghdad dealing with all the gunfire, the rocket attacks, the IEDs, the car bombs, the death. I have only been here going on a month and a half. Already I have seen what war really is... but officially its called “full spectrum operations.” No I don’t down Bush, he is my CinC, and I think he is doing an good job with what Clinton left him. I don’t debate why we are involved in Iraq. I just know why I am here. It is not for the smiling Iraqi kids, or the even the feeling of wearing the uniform ( it feels damn good though . I am here for the soldier on patrol with me.
    But why are you there in the states. Why are you having that nice dinner, watching TV, going out on dates...

    Daniel Gomez, e-mail to friends and family.
    Sept. 27, 2006

    And then Specialist Gomez fell in love. An e-mail flirtation with Katy Broom, his sister’s close friend, gradually led to a cyberexchange of guarded promises about the future. Headed home for a rest break in May, the tentativeness lifted and they began to rely on each other to get through the day. The two joked about “the best sex we never had.”

    ...this R&R there is someone new in my life. Exactly what she is too me, and what I am to her is uncertain, but its not really important at the moment. Just the thought that I could spent a second of my life with her, before I have to come back here makes everything worth it.

    Daniel Gomez, Myspace blog, May 9, 2007

    Rest and relaxation in Georgia went better than expected. He fell in love with the love of his life all over again, this time in person. The couple shared one kiss during his leave.

    “He was everything I expected and more,” said Ms. Broom, 20, who spent one week and two days with him. “It was kind of surreal when we met. It’s almost like a perfect love and war story.”

    Not many soldiers leave behind a just-in-case letter. Specialist Gomez did. He handed Ms. Broom an envelope at the airport with the words, “Don’t read unless something happens to me.”

    On July 18, 2007, two months after his leave, Specialist Gomez died in Adhamiya when the Bradley fighting vehicle he was in struck a roadside bomb. The explosion and flames also killed three other soldiers.

    Ms. Broom waited three days after she got word to open the letter. She sat alone in the couple’s favorite spot, her apartment balcony.

    “I was very thankful that he wrote it,” she said of the letter. “I have opened and closed it so many times, I’m surprised it hasn’t fallen apart.”

    R+R 2007

    Hey baby. If you’re reading this, then something has happen to me and I am sorry. I promised you I would come back to you, but I guess it was a promise I could not keep. You know I never believe in writing “death letters.” I knew if I left one for my folks it would scare them. Then I met you. We were supposed to meet, darling. I needed someone to make me smile, someone that was an old romantic like I was. I was going through a very rough time in Iraq and I was startin to doubt my mental state. Then one day after a patrol, I go to my facebook and there you were...

    I can’t stop crying while I writing this letter, but I have to talk to you one last time, because maybe the last time I heard your voice I did not know it would be the last time I heard your voice....

    I Love You. Go be happy, go raise a family. Teach your kids right from wrong, and have faith, darling. I think I knew I loved you even before I met. I love you, Katy. * Kiss * Goodbye

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    ^^^This war is more than the one can bare. I have several friends in the war one was injured by a roadside bomb and survived. The others have survived so far thank God. Reading that article tore at my hear and I fought back tears that entire time and the last letter by Specialist Gomez to his new love, just killed me, I just started crying so much that I couldn't control it.

    To think that chance beautiful meeting between these two people who are in my age group, just makes me cry so hard. It's great that they had that short time together, but it just kills me that they never got to share their lives together, it is just so cruel. The atrocity of this war is too terrible to relate. It pains me so to see young lives cut short because of an agenda by a man of little stature and mental capcity that is our president.

    I just don't know how much more of this our nation and us, the individual citizens of this once proud nation, can continue to bare without some kind of revolt. Have we become so apathic and slothly to just really not act or make any sort of statement? You would think that with all the connectivity and information that this Internet brings us, that we could stage a masive protest on D.C. with relative ease. I understand that the 60s were the 60s and nothing can touch that period of social upheavel and civil change, but it still pains me too see how lazy my generation has become and so self-absorbed at that.

    The music of a generation has always reflected it's times and acted as a window into the events of that time. My generations music hardly relfects the war. With rock and country groups you see it the most and some jazz and r&b; but rap, pop, hip-hop just relfects how much money once can make or much liquor they can drink or how much women they can have and get drunk to have sex with them. Most of those songs are about sex, money, power, respect, drinking, and the like. The prioritys of my generation just to be seem completely out of whack and distant from the problems at hand that it makes me wonder if my generation has any sense at all to it's own future and even worse it's own present.

    I hope and strive for a brighter future and protest the war, but I just feel that I am speaking and shouting till my voice breaks and my legs give out from under me with no result or resolve. We really have to make a smart choice with our next president and it cannot be based on race, popularity, rock star appeal, relgion, etc.., no it must be based on who is beat qualified to lead this nation and put an end to this atrocity known as the "War On Terrorism" and a lesser known war on the American people and it'd values and ideals.

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    ^^^ This is why this election is so important this year. We need to elect someone who has a clear, cut idea of how to either minimize, or pull the US military out of this mess in a timely and most importantly, well thought out and planned way. Rather than focus on what a certain canidate's preacher said about this country more than 6 years ago; rather then focus on what a canidate's middle name is, or even focus wheather or not one canidate has more "experience" over another, we need to elect the right person who is best suit for this job. We don't need the US, to become bogged down in this war for "100 years".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaNYC View Post
    ^^^ This is why this election is so important this year. We need to elect someone who has a clear, cut idea of how to either minimize, or pull the US military out of this mess in a timely and most importantly, well thought out and planned way. Rather than focus on what a certain canidate's preacher said about this country more than 6 years ago; rather then focus on what a canidate's middle name is, or even focus wheather or not one canidate has more "experience" over another, we need to elect the right person who is best suit for this job. We don't need the US, to become bogged down in this war for "100 years".

    I wonder who you could be talking about.....

    Huckabee??!?!?!?!?


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    How did you know? ^^

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    Analysis: Iraqis' Basra fight not going well

    From Barbara Starr
    CNN Pentagon Correspondent

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Iraqi military push into the southern city of Basra is not going as well as American officials had hoped, despite President Bush's high praise for the operation, several U.S. officials said Friday.

    A closely held U.S. military intelligence analysis of the fighting in Basra shows that Iraqi security forces control less than a quarter of the city, according to officials in both the United States and Iraq, and Basra's police units are deeply infiltrated by members of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi Army.

    "This is going to go on for a while," one U.S. military official said.

    Iraqi forces launched their offensive in Basra this week. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki was personally overseeing operations in the southern city against what government officials called "rogue" or "outlaw" militia elements, most loyal to al-Sadr.

    During a joint news conference Friday with Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, Bush called the operation "a defining moment in the history of a free Iraq," saying the government is fighting criminals there.

    "It was just a matter of time before the government was going to have to deal with it," he said.

    The president also hailed the operation as a sign of progress, emphasizing that the decision to mount the offensive was al-Maliki's.

    "It was his military planning; it was his causing the troops to go from point A to point B," Bush said. "And it's exactly what a lot of folks here in America were wondering whether or not Iraq would even be able to do it in the first place. And it's happening."

    But since the beginning of the government offensive four days ago, violence also has picked up in a wide area of southern Iraq, including in Baghdad's International Zone -- also known as the Green Zone -- which has been targeted by rocket and mortar attacks.

    Coalition bombers have joined in the fight, hitting targets in Basra and Baghdad.

    The Basra analysis also shows that militia forces control a wide swath of cities in Iraq's southeast, including areas near the airport, where British forces are located, the officials said.

    More than 100 Iraqis have been killed in the fighting, including at least 14 in Baghdad's Sadr City neighborhood.

    The fighting has sparked fears that a seven-month cease-fire by al-Sadr's Mehdi Army, regarded as a key factor in a dramatic drop in attacks in recent months, could collapse or that the U.S. military will have to bail out the Iraqis.

    On Thursday, the Interior Ministry imposed a curfew through the weekend in Baghdad, Hilla, Kut, Diwaniya, Simawa and Basra. VideoWatch more on the curfew »

    Officials banned pedestrian, motorcycle and vehicular traffic through 5 a.m. Sunday (10 p.m. ET Saturday).

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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/28/bush.basra


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    Are you writing all this down, Mr McCain?

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    I doubt if worsening conditions surrounding the War in Iraq will diminish any of the rhetoric that has come out of the Republican Party's current leaders. With all that hugging and fawning going on between Senator John McCain and President George W. Bush (see below), methinks the torch has been passed, regarding both their support of the "rightness" of this war, as well as a commitment to a long-term presence beyond their lifetime.

    Meanwhile, we see the massive amounts of monies being shelled out, expanding number of coffins, and lines of permanently maimed troops coming back from a war that was rationalised on false intelligence about vast inventories of WMDs. Senator McCain and President Bush continue to blur Afghanistan with Iraq, in order to continue this pointless endeavour. At minimum, the trickle down of this war has been the alienation of long-time allies, and a decided drag on a very sick domestic economy, certainly a major contributor to the devaluation of American money, but the real price may be greater than even that.

    These are cynical tidings of a bankrupt foreign policy that will continue if Senator McCain becomes President McCain. As far as the War in Iraq is concerned, this would be tantamount to President Bush being replaced by President "McBush" - a terrifying thought indeed!




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    Over the past few days the idiots Bush & McCain continue to go on and on about the improvements & successes in Iraq, but meanwhile news to the contrary seems endless ...

    UK admits rights breaches in Iraq

    Iraq: New Clashes in the South

    Iraq violence puts pull-out of 1500 UK troops in doubt

    Iraqi Spokesman Kidnapped in Baghdad

    Austrian kidnapped in Iraq found dead: foreign minister

    US Military Deaths in Iraq at 4005

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    I have a feeling, this is only the beginning........

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    Is it not inevitable that at some point Iraq will devolve into a full scale Civil War over the control of the oil industry?

    It appears that as soon as occupying troop numbers fall much below the current levels (140,000 ?) the locals and their supporters will move to seize power.

    It is a fools errand to try to maintain any sense of control by "western" governments / corporations without maintaining existing or similar troop numbers / war expenditures.

    This ^ is the path we are on -- and the one supported by McCain. Yet such a track will bankrupt our country.

    Is this the price we pay for turning a blind eye to our BS energy policy for the past 35+ years?

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    May 01, 2003, aboard the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln.




    Iraq five years after 'Mission Accomplished'

    J. Scott Applewhite of the Associated Press took this photo of President Bush after he declared the end of major combat operations in Iraq on May 1, 2003.

    The White House used a banner that said "Mission Accomplished" as a backdrop on the deck of the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln.

    "President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific and said 'mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission,” White House spokesman Dana Perino told reporters yesteday. “And we have certainly paid a price for not being more specific on that banner.[talk about spin] And I recognize that the media is going to play this up again tomorrow, as they do every single year."

    Officials say White House aides created the banner at the Navy's request. "The banner was a Navy idea, the ship's idea," Navy Cmdr. Conrad Chun told CNN. "The banner signified the successful completion of the ship's deployment."

    Here's how things have changed since Bush spoke off the coast of California:

    DEATHS: There have been 4,064 U.S. military casualties in Iraq, according to the Pentagon. About 96% have occurred since May 1, 2003, a period that the government describes as "Post Combat Ops."

    It's hard to find reliable numbers when it comes to the civilian death toll. Iraq Body Count, an online group that tracks casualties, says it has documented between 83,221 and 90,782 civilian deaths from violence in Iraq.

    INJURIES: The Defense Department says nearly 30,000 troops have been wounded in action. About 96% of these men and women were injured after the period officials describe as "combat operations."

    About 13,000 of the wounded were unable to return to duty within three days.

    HUMANITARIAN UPHEAVAL: Earlier this week, the United Nations cited the following figures in a report on displaced Iraqis: A total of 4.7 million Iraqis have been uprooted as a result of the crisis in Iraq. Of these, more than 2 million are living as refugees in neighboring countries – mostly Syria and Jordan – while 2.7 million are displaced inside Iraq.

    PUBLIC OPINION: In July 2003, 27% of Americans thought the invasion was a mistake, according to Gallup. In February 2008, 59% of respondents told pollsters that "the United States made a mistake in sending troops to Iraq."

    TROOP LEVELS: The size of the U.S. military presence has grown since 2003. The United States had 148,000 troops in Iraq after the fall of Baghdad. About 160,000 servicemen and women are now said to be serving in that country.

    INTERNATIONAL COMMITMENT: In March 2003, the White House said 49 countries were "publicly committed to the coalition." In May 2007, the Multi-National Force in Iraq identified 25 countries as "partners in the Coalition."

    COVERAGE: News organizations have been devoting less time and space to the conflict in Iraq, according to the Project for Excellence in Journalism. The Committee to Protect Journalists says more than 100 reporters and photographers have been killed since 2003.

    Posted by Mike Carney at 12:22 PM/ET, May 01, 2008 in Iraq

    Copyright 2008 USA TODAY


    On March 18th 2008, the USS Abraham Lincoln was redeployed to the Persian Gulf. If Clinton becomes the next president, the ship will come in handy should it become necessary to "obliterate" Iran.

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    We have reached the finger pointing stage.

    "It was not our intension to do this, our banner should have read: 'Mission Accomplished for the Crew of This Ship and the Tasks it was Sent Out To Do!' But we just could not find a bridge that was big enough!"

    The navy made us say it.


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