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    Another shot of the wide expanse of cobblestone at Gansevoort and Greenwich, the hub of the neighborhood that gives the district a unique look and feel for Manhattan.


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    At the intersection of Hudson St, 9th Ave, and W 14th st...
    Tango up the stairs.

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    I've long felt that they should turn the intersection of Gansevoort and Greenwich into a public square (European style). There is no real need for cars to drive thru that intersection that I could think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoe
    I've long felt that they should turn the intersection of Gansevoort and Greenwich into a public square (European style). There is no real need for cars to drive thru that intersection that I could think of.
    There are still working meatpacking businesses in the immediate area that need truck access.

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    Creative companies flock to Meatpacking District


    By Adelle Waldman
    July 2004

    The meatpacking district in West Chelsea isn't just a nightlife hot spot anymore. A few hours after the bleary-eyed partiers leave, the streets get busy with office workers preparing to clock in at some of the many creative companies setting up shop in the area.

    Many advertising, media and other creative businesses have signed deals to move into the neighborhood, from the apparel maker Theory, which has leased an entire 60,00-square-foot building on Gansevoort Place, to Estee Lauder's salon and hair-care subsidiary Bumble & Bumble, and the Food Network, a new tenant in the Chelsea Market.

    Even financial services firms are getting on board: Alexander von Furstenberg, son of Diane von Furstenberg and stepson of Barry Diller, will move Arrow Investments, his private investment firm, to 408 West 14th St., between Ninth and Tenth Avenues. The company's offices are currently in the MetLife building.

    "This is the next frontier in office development," said Douglas Grabiner, managing director of Newmark & Co., which represented the landlord in the Arrow Investments lease. "It's a way for companies to show that they are forward-thinking and unique, not simply taking space in a fungible building."

    "It's the cutting edge neighborhood for creative companies to be," agreed Bruce Sinder, president of Sinvin Realty Corp., which focuses on Downtown office and retail space, and represented the landlord in the Theory transaction. In that deal, the retailer took an entire building and will use the ground floor for retail and the upper floors for a showroom and corporate headquarters, Sinder said.

    More established buildings are also benefitting from the neighborhood's cachet.

    111 Eighth Avenue, a 3-million-square-foot building that occupies an entire city block from Eighth to Ninth Avenues and 15th to 16th Streets-one-and-a-half times the size of the MetLife building - is about 95 percent occupied, says Brian Gell, an executive vice president with CB Richard Ellis, who represents the building along with senior associate Susan MacWilliams.

    "We have transactions pending for 300,000 square feet for future space, when leases expire for older tenants-distributors and warehouses," Gell says.

    The building houses such tenants as BarnesandNoble.com, DoubleClick and Deutsch Advertising, which recently increased the amount of space it leases from 110,000 square feet to 130,000 square feet.

    What's driving it? The movement of many galleries from SoHo to Chelsea and the recent influx of trendy clubs and restaurants certainly helped, brokers say.

    "Many companies are looking for an atmosphere that will excite and energize their people, both in terms of neighborhood and environment," Gell says, referring to both the neighborhood and the aesthetic amenities associated with converted industrial buildings, from high ceilings to wide columns.

    With many low-rise buildings and streets that are off the grid, Sinder says the meatpacking district has an almost European flavor. No one denies that Chelsea Market has also been a driving force, Grabiner says. The culinary cornucopia in the first floor of the multibuilding market is a destination, he says.

    Put it all together and what you get is demand that outpaces supply and rents that outpace those in lower Manhattan and Midtown South. At 111 Eighth Avenue, rents are in the mid-$30s per sf, Gell says.

    For the neighborhood as a whole, rents range from the mid-$20s to the mid-$30s, he says, up from the low to mid $20s five years ago, but still below their $40 peak during the dot-com boom, Gell says.

    "It comes down to location, not economics," Grabiner says.


    Copyright 2003-2004 The Real Deal.

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    In front of Pastis. 9 April 2005.


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    The roof of the Soho House.


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    anybody could tell me the conditions of the buildings in the 10th Av between Little West 12St and Gansevoort ST and if they have any used at the moment ?

    Also... I am not entierly sure but is the NYC Sanitation in the adjacent pier, what is going on in thet pier? In google earth i can appreciate lot of trucks park there ????

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    ^You'll find lots of information and photos in the Landmark Preservation Commission's 2-volume Designation Report for the Gansevoort Market Historic District at http://www.nyc.gov/html/lpc/html/for...orts_man.shtml. As for those garbage trucks on the Gansevoort Peninsula, you'll find a currently active discussion here at WNY about the City's plans to move them to a new garage further downtown.

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    ^ Time to repair the Belgian block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    ^ Time to repair the Belgian block.
    It's in the works.

    9th Ave & W14th St Pedestrian/Traffic Improvement

    An interim plan that began late last year. Some wanted the sidewalks extended, but according to DOT, that would have meant drainage studies, relocating sewers, and a capital project with contracts going out.

    Pedestrian space increased. Long 120 ft crosswalk
    cut down to two 30 footers.






    NYC DOT presentation
    Plaza rendering is really crude.

    The above is part of an overall effort by the Greater Gansevoort Urban Improvement Project, which includes a piazza on Gansevoort, and narrowing 9th Ave south of 14th St.

    Report by the Project for Public Spaces

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    ^ Potted trees?



    Looks like a cheapie.

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    I think the plan is to live with the temporary set-up in order to evaluate it. Tweak it; critique it; then make the changes more permanent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fioco View Post
    I think the plan is to live with the temporary set-up in order to evaluate it.
    So first it's a kind of traffic-study experiment to see how the circulation works out --both vehicular and pedestrian-- and then when they're convinced it works, they can hire a design professional to make a place that is more than traffic islands with potted bushes?

    then make the changes more permanent.
    Do you have inside info on this, fioco? Or is it just that this makes sense to you on the basis of what you see, and is often the way things are done? If the latter, this could be a fifty-year process.

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