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    What I know from various sources:

    The intersection was scheduled for repaving this summer. DOT took advantage of this and, noting studies and wish-lists by the community, presented the interim plan.

    What you see was done in three weeks as part of the repaving, out of the DOT budget. Further improvements will be made over the next months.

    A permanent plan will involve ripping up the streets, relocating utilities, etc. It will have to go through a review process, funds allocated, contracts bid and awarded. Three years.

    Early this year, long range proposals were made for the district, including extending the L train from 8th Ave. One more immediate proposal was to raise the Belgian block streets at Gansevoort up to sidewalk level, along with decreasing the width of 9th Ave south of 14th street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYatKNIGHT View Post
    ...the wide expanse of cobblestone at Gansevoort and Greenwich, the hub of the neighborhood that gives the district a unique look and feel for Manhattan.
    That's right, that's what makes it feel so much like Paris, which abounds with such broad, multi-axial cobbled intersections. The intention, however, is to largely eliminate that with traffic islands masquerading as park. For me, this engenders mixed feelings.

    (Similar condition where the Holland Tunnel ramps emerge into an unusable pseudo-park at Broome, Hudson, Watts and Varick. Looks nicer than it did, but in the case of Gansevoort/Greenwich, the vast expanse of granite blocks wins the beauty contest to my eye.)

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    You're confusing the expanse at Gansevoort with the the intersection at 14th and 9th. That was always a "wide expanse" of traffic lanes.

    The intention at Gansevoort is to maintain the present open environment. That's why they want to raise the cobbled streets - to blur the distinction between street and sidewalk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    You're confusing the expanse at Gansevoort with the the intersection at 14th and 9th. That was always a "wide expanse" of traffic lanes.
    You're right. My bad.

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    Hey guys can you help me identify these buildings, often when I'm out I just snap away without taking notes.

    This is at 15th and 9th I think:


    and this is at Greenwich and Gansevoort. I love it, very neat.

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    That last one is at 40 Gansevoort and is by Morris Adjmi .

    Some other buildings by Adjmi:

    408 Greenwich (2007) in Tribeca

    Scholastic Building (2000) on Broadway in SoHo (lead arch.: Aldo Rossi)

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    Thanks, how do you do it. You're like a living, walking Google.

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    I live very close to one of those, hence the familiarity

    The pre-cast (oversized) columns are found on each of the three I posted.

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    I hope this is the right place for this.

    The property addresses given below do not match those on Google Maps Street View.


    HOG-WILD ON NINTH

    BKSK Architects
    IN DEVELOPMENT: Aurora Capital Associates bought the ground lease for Nos. 21-27 Ninth Ave. (above), which it will market to high-end retail tenants. Steve Cuozzo

    Last updated: 2:18 am
    April 14, 2009
    Posted: 1:58 am
    April 14, 2009

    THE Meatpacking District's relentless gentrification shows no sign of abating.

    Aurora Capital Associates has just acquired a ground lease at Nos. 21-27 Ninth Ave., giving the partners control and redevelopment rights for four, three-story, 19th Century buildings.

    Aurora, led by Bobby Cayre and Alex Adjmi, plans to remake the vacant structures into yet another Meatpacking destination for high-end retail -- a neighborhood that's already drawn the likes of Apple, Stella McCartney and Christian Loboutin.

    Although no one at Aurora would comment on price, neighborhood real estate sources estimated their combined acquisition and development costs at $150 million-plus.

    The site at the southwest corner of Ninth Avenue and 13th Street is across from the Gansevoort Hotel, between restaurants Pastis and Spice Market, and a stone's throw from the soon-to-open High Line park.

    Aurora's VP of acquisitions and leasing, Jared Epstein, said, "The buildings were owned by a family that used them for hog-cutting in the 1970s. We structured a 49-year ground lease that presents us with the opportunity to develop one of the most prime sites in the area."

    Because the buildings stand within the Gansevoort Market Historic District, they won't be torn down. With consent from the Landmarks Preservation Commission, Epstein said, "We will shore up the fašades, demolish the interiors, and create an entirely new building with a dramatic retail presence," including a glass fašade at ground level.

    He expects to complete the job by fall 2010.

    The project, with 20,000 square feet, will be designed by Manhattan-based BKSK Architects.

    Epstein said, "We've already seen a lot of interest from luxury retailers."
    Asked how Aurora will finance the scheme in a credit-starved world, Epstein declined to comment. But a source familiar with the project said, "These guys have the money and they have the financing."

    steve.cuozzo@nypost.com

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/04142009...nth_164319.htm

    Copyright 2009 NYP Holdings, Inc.

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    If everything goes well, these spaces should be ready for when the economy starts to perk up (?).

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    Smoke break


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    This area is hardly an "historic district" any longer.

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    9th Ave & W 13th St

    21-27 9th Ave. Whatever happens here, hope thy restore the cornice.



    The lot around the corner is 402 W 13th. Renderings here.

    Not sure what's happening here. Barney's was previously mentioned at the site across from the Standard Hotel. When that fell through, 402 was rumored.

    The gray building is 408 W 13th, built last year. Very nice, but not occupied yet.


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    RE: 9th Ave & W 13th St aka 21-27 9th Ave.

    Here's the proposal:

    Application:

    A row of four Greek Revival style rowhouses, built circa 1844-1846 and altered in the 1880’s and 1920’s. Application is to construct a rooftop addition, alter a canopy,and install new storefront infill and signage.
    LPC had some problems with the original submission and asked for changes. The plan was approved with modifications.

    The cornice on the corner building will be restored.

    Existing conditions:



    The original proposal:





    The modified plan was approved, with the rooftop addition set farther back, a bulkhead eliminated and the design of the railing on the upper roof simplified; an existing cast iron column at the corner (now hidden) will be revealed and that entry modified:



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    DOB shows that the architect for 21-27 Ninth is BKSK. Other projects include the NY Law School on Leonard Street, 124 Hudson in Tribeca and 25 Bond in Noho.

    They got a partial permit dated 5. 26.2010. They're adding a new 4th Floor with 3,038 sf for a total of 18,074 sf.

    The Schedule A shows that the plan is for two floors of retail and two floors of offices up top.

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