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Thread: Red Sox v. Yankees

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    Default Red Sox v. Yankees

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    The Red Sox, thanks to their smart costumes.

    Associated Press

    The red makes their limbs look superhuman.

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    Im a Met fan until October, this is the reason Im also a Cardinal fan as they do make it often enough. I am a Yankee hater.

    And btw wasnt last-night's game great? Go Boston!

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    What is this, the Wired Boston Forum? Blasphemy!

    The Bambino (post-curse)

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    I'm going for the BoSox. I voted that I'm a Mets fan and I want to see a Cubbies vs. BoSox World Series. Who will end their curse first? Which curse is the strongest?

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    October 8, 2003

    Dream Teams

    The Boston Red Sox' nail-biting victory over the Oakland Athletics on Monday night moves professional baseball one step closer to the Dream Series: the Red Sox versus the Chicago Cubs. With all due respect to our New York readership — Yankee fans among them — to George Steinbrenner and to the Yankees themselves, we find it hard to resist the emotional tug and symmetrical possibilities of a series between teams that seem to have been put on earth to tantalize and then crush their zealous fans. Together they account for 180 years of futility. The Cubs have not won a World Series since 1908. The Red Sox have not won one since 1918, a little more than a year before they shipped Babe Ruth to the Yankees, a famously bizarre transaction that ushered in the era of Yankee domination.

    For the matchup to occur, each team must jump one more hurdle. For Chicago, it is the Florida Marlins, a team for which it is hard to muster much enthusiasm if you're a baseball traditionalist. The Marlins, a major league team only since 1993, were essentially an artificial construct. The team's original owner, Wayne Huizenga, dismantled it after it won a championship in 1997 because the team was too expensive, then sold it in 1999. Improbably, the team finds itself knocking on the door again with a cast of largely low-paid youngsters.

    For the Red Sox, the obstacles are twofold. One is the Yankees, whose lineup and pitching staff are rivaled only by the Cubs'. The other is the Red Sox, plagued by demons that ruin things whenever the team comes close. The Red Sox have reached the playoffs or the Series nine times since that triumph in 1918, and have failed every time. The Yankees tend to close things out, advancing to the World Series five times in the last seven years and winning four of them. Cold reality favors the Yankees; warm sentiment, which is at the heart of baseball and to which we are always susceptible, favors one or the other of baseball's most reliable losers.

    Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

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    October 8, 2003

    Bloomberg Trades His Sox for the Local Pinstripes


    He made his first big fielding error during the mayoral campaign two years ago, when he bobbled a tricky one-hopper about whether he liked the Yankees or the Mets.

    "I grew up in Boston," Michael R. Bloomberg replied, as his gleeful opponents ran for extra bases.

    Then there was the easy pop-up that bounced out of his glove — his mispronunciation of the name of the Yankees' manager, Joe Torre, at a New York University graduation ceremony in May. The tabloids blamed "the Boston-bred" mayor's accent, while noting, suspiciously, that he "grew up a Red Sox fan."

    Determined to prevent the ball from rolling through his legs again, à la Bill Buckner, Mr. Bloomberg is taking no chances as he warms up for the American League Championship Series between the Yankees and the Boston Red Sox.

    "I'm rooting for the Yankees, make no mistake about that," the mayor declared yesterday. "This team's going to go all the way."

    In politics, where perception is as important as reality, candidates can be undone over trivial issues that suddenly gain traction in the shifting sands of public opinion. (Hillary Rodham Clinton is still trying to live down a gaffe from her Senate race in 2000, when she suddenly declared her love for the Yankees although she had rooted for her hometown Chicago Cubs all her life.)

    During a public appearance in Manhattan, Mr. Bloomberg took up the Louisville Slugger that his predecessor, Rudolph W. Giuliani seemed to heft so easily, and gamely swung away. "The Yankees are going to win," he asserted, pledging to be at Yankee Stadium tomorrow for the second game of the championship series, though he said he would not be able to attend tonight's opener.

    Later, in a prepared statement that referred to Babe Ruth, Mr. Bloomberg laid it on thick.

    "I share a bond with Yankees past and present who have left Boston to find success in the greatest city in the world," he said.

    Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

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    PR- 278-03
    October 7, 2003


    Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino today announced a “friendly wager” on the New York Yankees-Boston Red Sox American League Championship Series. The series gets underway at Yankee Stadium in the Bronx at 8:00 pm on Wednesday night.

    “I share a bond with Yankees past and present who have left Boston to find success in the greatest city in the world, which will make me especially proud to watch the Bombers send the boys from Beantown home empty-handed,” said Mayor Bloomberg. “Because New York’s generosity is matched only by its confidence, I am pleased to offer a veritable feast of New York cuisine that the people of Boston will never get to eat:

    • A quart of Manhattan clam chowder from Lundy Brothers in Sheepshead Bay;

      A large pizza from Denino’s in Port Richmond;

      A dozen dumplings from Joe’s Shanghai in Chinatown;

      A dozen bagels from Slim’s in Bayside;

      An order of Bistec Encebollado (steak with onions) from Jimmy’s Bronx Café.

    “And just to remind you of whence your troubles began, a dozen ‘Baby Ruth’ bars to commemorate the curse of the Bambino,” said Mayor Bloomberg.

    “This year, and particularly, this past week, the Red Sox have given the fans of Boston and New England hours of excitement and drama,” said Mayor Menino. “Tomorrow, a new day dawns as the likes of Ramirez, Ortiz, Millar, Mueller, and Nomar slug their way to our inevitable victory. If the Super Bowl celebration of 2002 was a tremendous memory, just wait as Martinez, Lowe and Wakefield bring a World Series championship to Boston.

    “I'm offering Boston’s best to Mayor Bloomberg in the knowledge that as the victor, we'll take the spoils (what, no brisket?). We're putting a Legal Seafoods clambake for four on the table with lobster, steamers, linguica and REAL clam chowder. And after the Red Sox win it all, Mayor Bloomberg will have a standing invitation to come home to Boston, the Hub of the universe, and enjoy our legendary hospitality,” concluded Mayor Menino.


    Edward Skyler / Jordan Barowitz (212) 788-2958

    Seth Gitell (City of Boston) (617) 635-4461

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    October 8, 2003

    Unfinished Business for Yankees and Red Sox


    Boston sold Babe Ruth to the Yankees in 1920, and the rest is history. The Yankees have since won 26 World Series championships and the Red Sox none.

    The Boston Red Sox are not used to success, so there was not much sleeping on their red-eye flight from California on Monday night. After holding on for a frantic one-run victory to eliminate the Oakland Athletics from the playoffs, the Red Sox joy ride touched down in Newark at 7:01 a.m. yesterday. The players arrived at their Midtown hotel at 8:30 and took buses to Yankee Stadium at 3 p.m., seeming more buoyant than weary.

    "That's the fun thing about this clubhouse," first baseman Kevin Millar said. "We've got a bunch of idiots in here who go out and play baseball. I don't think anything fazes us."

    The Red Sox were perceptive enough to acknowledge the magnitude of the American League Championship Series against the Yankees beginning tonight. There is more than a World Series berth at stake. There is the weight of history, which shifted seismically in the Yankees' favor after the Red Sox sold them Babe Ruth in 1920.

    For the Yankees and their hard-driving principal owner, George Steinbrenner, losing to the Red Sox would be catastrophic. For the Red Sox and their fatalistic fans, beating the Yankees would be unthinkably delicious. The participants know it.

    "Whether they admit it or not, I think everybody in this clubhouse kind of wanted to go through the Yankees if we're going to get to the World Series," Red Sox General Manager Theo Epstein said. "It's appropriate. We've battled them in some really tough games all year, and there's some unfinished business. I think both teams probably feel that way.

    "If you're going to do it, you might as well do it right. It seemed that we're perhaps destined to face each other here in the A.L.C.S. Let's do it."

    The Yankees and the Red Sox have brought out the best in each other for months. Of their 19 regular-season meetings, the Yankees won 10, and they finished six games ahead of Boston in the A.L. East. The Red Sox scored more runs, 109 to 94, and the final game of the series was tied in the seventh inning before the Yankees won.

    "If you wanted to come to a postseason game in the middle of June, you came to a Red Sox-Yankees game, whether it's at the Stadium here or at Fenway Park," Mike Mussina, who will start Game 1 for the Yankees, said. "If you wanted to see it without it being October, that's what you did. You just magnify it 10 times, and that's what you're going to have. This is what I think a lot of people wanted to see."

    The Red Sox used their two best starting pitchers, Pedro Martínez and Derek Lowe, in Game 5 of their division series in Oakland. They will start the knuckleballer Tim Wakefield tonight, with Lowe pitching Game 2 against Andy Pettitte tomorrow night. Roger Clemens will face Martínez in Game 3 on Saturday at Fenway Park, where Clemens, the former Red Sox ace, has 100 career victories.

    Clemens pitched for the Red Sox for 13 years and knows that Boston has not won a championship since 1918. The Yankees have not won since 2000, which is an eternity to Steinbrenner.

    "I think our fans are missing it, too," Clemens said. "They have high expectations for our team, how we've spoiled them over the years and spoiled ourselves. I don't think you could ask for anything more."

    The winner of this four-of-seven-game series will face the winner of the National League Championship Series between the Chicago Cubs and the Florida Marlins. But there is a sense among some players that the real action is here, that this series will determine the best team in the majors.

    "Whoever wins this series is going to win the World Series, there's no doubt about it," Red Sox second baseman Todd Walker said. "We're the two best teams in baseball, I think."

    Both teams come into the series with a three-game winning streak. The Yankees lost the first game of their division series against Minnesota before winning three in a row, and Boston lost its first two games against Oakland before coming back. The Red Sox, the team with a history of postseason stumbles, seized on Oakland's base-running blunders to take control of the series.

    "Boston should have never really been in it, to be honest," said David Wells, who will start Game 4 against John Burkett of the Red Sox. "But Oakland got a little careless at Fenway, and that's what really fired them up. When you get an opportunity like that, you take advantage of it. To me, if you go out and play good baseball, you're going to win."

    The Yankees, who beat the Red Sox in the 1999 A.L.C.S., four games to one, are more likely to play cleaner games than the A's, who have lost in the first round of the playoffs four years in a row. But the Red Sox plan to be similarly opportunistic if the Yankees let them.

    "We've always stood toe to toe with them," Boston catcher Jason Varitek said. "A break here or a break there in the last A.L.C.S. could have turned those games completely around. Who gets the breaks and takes advantage of them most is who's going to win."

    The Yankees won four games against the Red Sox this season while scoring four or fewer runs. Boston beat the Yankees by scores of 10-3, 10-2, 9-3 and 11-0.

    Asked if his team has to outslug the Red Sox to win, Jason Giambi said, "I don't want to try."

    The Red Sox set a major league record for slugging percentage, .491, 2 percentage points better than the 1927 Yankees of Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig. They exceeded the expectations of Epstein, who tried to stock the lineup with hitters who got on base regularly and were threats to hit for extra bases.

    "I don't think anyone saw that kind of home run and extra-base pop coming out of this team," Epstein said. "But we wanted tough outs, professional at-bats, one through nine. We were fortunate to stay healthy, and the guys really fed off each other and fed off the strength of the lineup to put up great years. I think when we're having tough, quality at-bats early in the game, that's when we know we're going to put up some runs."

    Pettitte beat the Red Sox three times this season, but in his last start against them, he gave up eight runs and did not escape the third inning. He said he would not think much about his good starts or his bad one, focusing more on how the Red Sox have hit recently, and how he has pitched. After the Yankees dominated the Twins in the division series, the pitching coach Mel Stottlemyre said, that is probably wise.

    "If they're on their game," Stottlemyre said, referring to the Yankees' starters, "they're basically like any other team that can be held down. But if the pitcher's not on his game, they can destroy you in a short period of time. That's the type of club they have."

    That is essentially how the Yankees see it: if they pitch to their abilities, they believe they will win. If they do not, the Red Sox will punish them. Either way, the fans will go wild.

    "There's no other opponent for the Red Sox or the Yankees that could take this to a higher level," Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman said. "This is the greatest rivalry in sports, period."

    Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

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    GO YANKEES!!! Jasonik do you really wanna bet 31 bucks on the Boston Red Socks? They're cursed, and will forever stay that way, I hope.

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    They're cursed .... I hope.
    "You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you are going, because you might not get there."
    -Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

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    Wow, now I'm confused. I mean there is a curse, and I just hope the Red Sox don't end the curse by winning this year. Am I missing something? Why don't I know where I'm going? Hey Yogi can you explain? Hehe.

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    Having grown up in Boston you have to fully understand the curse to properly predict it. The curse is not just that the Sox will lose, it is their ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory that counts. Game 6 of the WS against the Mets is the ultimate example.

    Therefore I predict they will beat the Yankees sending Boston into a euphoria which will last until game 7 of the WS where they will manage to blow a lead to the Cubs in the 9th through a series of errors, wild pitches, and general gagging. Red Sox fans must be brought to the very brink of victory before having the rug pulled out from under them.

    That is the curse.

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