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Thread: Proposed - Port Authority Tower (20 Times Square) - West 42nd Street at Eighth Avenue

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    Quote Originally Posted by alonzo-ny View Post
    Man they really need to re organise the BT that place is a MAZE. They will need to re fit out the whole interior in my opinion. Where would the lobby be and how will they fit the elevator shafts into the building?
    The lobby most likely would be above the terminal, similar to the WTC towers going up. This tower addition was always planned for the terminal.

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    The parking there now...

    APRIL 28, 2007





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    ^ These giant signs are legal ... right?

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    ^ Yes, Times Square.

    Anyway, that Duane Reade corner across 42nd so needs to be redeveloped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYguy View Post
    By JEREMY OLSHAN, Transit Reporter
    April 25, 2007
    The Port Authority may hang a "for sale" sign outside its hulking Midtown bus terminal and build a state-of-the-art replacement on land it owns a few blocks away, officials said yesterday.
    Let's hope this never comes to pass. Moving the bus station away from the subways is a horrible idea.

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    if they move it it will become even more sleazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by 212 View Post
    Let's hope this never comes to pass. Moving the bus station away from the subways is a horrible idea.
    The proposed new location would be directly adjacent a new 7 train entrance.

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    Most of the new buildings on west 42nd are such a disappointment. Look at that picture, a whole new canyon being created- of junk. Glad to see a handful of developers got richer from building ugly and boring. The lost opportunity to create a beautiful new area of town is mind-boggling. And not just from an aerial perspective...at street level you have a disaster on far west 42nd. A really sterile and uninviting streetscape. Let's hope this isn't the shape of things to come on the rest of the West Side as it develops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASchwarz View Post
    The proposed new location would be directly adjacent a new 7 train entrance.
    A single (future) subway line won't cut it. The bus terminal is in the perfect place right now, at the best subway hub in the city. Moving the terminal would guarantee longer commutes to 200,000 riders -- some of whom would take their cars into the city instead.

    New Jersey and New York should use their political leverage over the Port Authority and quash the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 212 View Post
    The bus terminal is in the perfect place right now, at the best subway hub in the city.
    I wouldn't call the 42nd Street A/C/A stations the best subway hub in the city. Times Square is one long city block away, and for all we know taking the bus station further west will disentangle commuter traffic and tourist hordes to some extent.

    Quote Originally Posted by 212 View Post
    Moving the terminal would guarantee longer commutes to 200,000 riders -- some of whom would take their cars into the city instead.
    No they won't. Not when they have to pay $8 for that privilege

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    well the A/C/E is connected to the rest of 42nd> And besides, 1 block is better than walking however many PA is proposing.

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    The only solution I see to this is to install moving sidewalks underground like you see in airports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 212 View Post
    A single (future) subway line won't cut it.
    A light rail running a loop from 42nd Street to First Ave to 34th Street to Eleventh Ave could do it.

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    Good ideas. The new Penn should get moving sidewalks, too, ideally from Ninth all the way to Herald Square.

    The bus terminal is a great intermodal transit hub (underground access to 12 subway lines!), worth keeping. And at this point it isn't holding development back; I mean, this is maybe the fastest-growing neighborhood in all of Manhattan.

    The best course for the bus terminal is to expand it (upward, and maybe across Ninth, with stache's moving sidewalks) and build towers on top of it. Not unlike what's happening now.
    Last edited by 212; May 2nd, 2007 at 09:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    ^ Yes, Times Square.

    Anyway, that Duane Reade corner across 42nd so needs to be redeveloped.
    Thats in the works as well

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