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    Cut-outs for circular staircases. There are actually a number of those "holes" around the building. They are some fancy design feature PCF decided to incorporate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoldanTTLB View Post
    Cut-outs for circular staircases. There are actually a number of those "holes" around the building. They are some fancy design feature PCF decided to incorporate.


    Thanks.

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    Considering how low the standards are in NY, this is pretty good for "Syms" City. It's not a box and doesn't have absurd, random tumors.


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    They've already brought it and installed some of the spiral staircases already. They're white.

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    Facade installation started.

    Looks OK for factory panels.


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    The red brick will be a nice contrast to everything else around the site... that might be some consolation for the otherwise bland nature of the design.

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    Agreed. I was going to mention that.

    Great that the plaza will be circled by a variety of styles and building uses. An art deco post office, a Gehry designed performing arts center, 7 WTC , and this post-modernish college building. There should be mingling of all types of people in the plaza.

    Though the school, post office and office tower are all a bit reserved at street level, I hope the Gehry building will be a real stunner and the focal point of the ensemble.
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    Those panels look a lot better than the orange colored brick in the renderings. It looks fine.

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    Looks like the windows will come almost up to the very edge of the bricks with just an inch or so of reveal, which will result in a very flat appearance overall. That I don't like. Deeper recesses creating shadows are almost always preferred when glass meets brick.





    Mock-Up behind the sidewalk fence along Greenwich:



    West Broadway at Barclay ...







    Neighbors to the east ...



    Regarding RKOwens inquiry about the alignment of the new Fiterman, it's completely in line with the building on Greenwich one block north across Park Place ...


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    lofter -- are those 'real' bricks? could you tell up close? they certainly look real based on the first photo, but i wanted to confirm.

    in this world of faux this and efis that i was just curious -- thx!

    no doubt it will still come out hideous (as do cc buildings most anywhere unfortunately), but at least it already looks a lot better than the renders and what the heck returning a little brick down there is probably a good thing for contrast.
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    The bricks are real in the sense that they're the same material as full bricks, but they are veneer, usually half-bricks.

    They are embedded into still-soft precast concrete panels, either by hand or machine. How the final product looks depends on the manufacturing process.

    There are cheaper alternatives, where the entire panel is molded as a unit; but they are easy to spot, and look very dead because the bricks are uniform in color.

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    Thanks lofter!!

    You can also see in Zippy's first pic that it's nicely in line with the park too. Thanks to both of you.

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    I should have known that was prefabbed brick, seeing that there is no scalfolding set up around the columns. I guess that it's just as good.

    Thanks for the pics, Zippy & Lofter!

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    Oh it's good. The seams that it leaves between panels...not so much.

    I guess it was either this, or stucco.

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