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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    Odd wall angles and window placements.

    Like a grown-up version of an Our Gang clubhouse.
    It does kind of look like it was designed by a dysfunctional committee.

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    ^
    They should rename it Alfalfa Hall.

    Quote Originally Posted by RKOwens44 View Post
    ^^ It's not so bad, kinda reminds me of the windows on the WFC buildings, which are also perfectly flush with the masonry.
    The WFC achieves a change in mass in a subtle way. The base is dark stone. The lower levels of the lighter stone are arranged like fort battlements. As you go up, there are three levels where the windows become larger. If recessed, I think the entire effect would be overwhelmingly busy.

    The Fiterman building mimics thousands of buildings in NYC (and most other places); it just does it all wrong (or on the cheap). It looks fake.

    The building on the right is about 100 years old. The one on the left is about 12 years old. Not a great building, but it fits in and looks real because it's in the historic district, and the developer was required to build it that way.

    http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6...eca9907if1.jpg

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    Tower crane down as of this morning. I'll have photos tonight, but there's some interesting steel being added. This building will have a better shape once the glass is in. I didn't realize there was going to be so much(many) atrium(s) inside.

    UPDATE:









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    9/26/11

    A banal, poorly crafted building.






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    Still better looking than the old one.

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    You might get an argument about that.

    When built, Fiterman Hall was typical of modern low office buildings of the time. Horizontal bands of windows. You could look at it decades later and say 1950s. Also, for years before 09/11, a renovation was planned.

    If you looked at the present building in 40 years, could you date it to any particular era or style?

    It says absolutely nothing.
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    You might be right.

    Well, they had thought about fixing up the damaged one, but I think that they thought that it would be better to just demolish & rebuild.

    But of course, what I said above, that's just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daquan13 View Post
    You might be right.
    Good point D: that remark reminded me of one of my favorite bands/song............ Public Image Ltd - "RISE". Enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPj-8_wOZcA

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    Almost assuredly the way it is being built now will be date-able to now. Whether that takes the form of the windows, the styling of the prefab panels, the use of a heavy rhomboid corner column or something else, we will almost assuredly be styling buildings differently 30 years from now. There's no doubt in my mind that what we call beau arts masterpieces now were "just another building" at some point, but now they're quite easily timed/placed. It's the short lens of the last few years that makes this stuff generic. We are living with it. It won't be the same in the future. While this building doesn't have them, I can almost guarantee that "tumors" will define buildings from this era as well.

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    I don't think this building looks like anything else I've seen in the city , new or old.
    Maybe a parking garage, and those really are hard to date.

    In keeping with the red brick, a worthy precedent would be BMCC's huge Chambers Street building. It's somewhat ugly but at least it looks like some thought was involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daquan13 View Post
    Well, they had thought about fixing up the damaged one
    I said before 09/11...before it was damaged.

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    I think this thread should be locked and buried so we can just forget it ever happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daquan13 View Post
    Well, they had thought about fixing up the damaged one, but I think that they thought that it would be better to just demolish & rebuild.
    Continuous idiocy from you. The building was never salvageable post 9/11. Why must you constantly spread misinformation?

    Btw, stop spamming me with your PMs. As long as you continue to ruin these threads with your careless blabber, I'll continue to provide commensurate response.

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    Why won't you just stop it?! I have a right to, and am entitled to my own opinion!

    Send me a pm, please. Don't harass and bully me on the forum. Pm's are just that, pm's. They are not supposed to be blurted out on the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    I said before 09/11...before it was damaged.



    It wasn't bad looking before 09-11, even though I thought that the facade looked a little bit distasteful & boring.
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