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Thread: The new Fiterman Hall - 30 West Broadway - by Pei, Cobb, Freed

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    The camera accents the problems with it. I don't find it to be as bad in person. A similar example is the heavy outlines in photos of 123 Washington. They do not pop like that in person. Additionally, once the extra lime is washed off this and everything settles it won't be bad at all. That said, prefab appears to work better with some details, ala Superior Ink. I think what's their buckets on Mulberry (that empty place) has the same seam issues as this.

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    Not bad, for government work:as the saying goes. LoL.."...

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    Hilarious.

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    Seems this Canadian company did the pre-cast brick panels for Fiterman:

    BPDL

    Based on all the info & options on their website this could have turned out better if those in charge had made different design decisions.

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    this one has grown on me a bit however i'm still mighty irked by the sloppy panel installation. a few days of crappy workmanship, and now we have to live with it indefinitely.

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    Not terrible from up the street. I think much of this view will end up obscured by various buildings in between,


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    The design and cladding are meh, but it does open up beautifully to Greenwich Street. Those spiraling staircases will look sick from that angle.

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    Even though it will hopefully get a little more personality as its finished and opened, this building screams "middle America community college" and not "downtown Manhattan". Colleges used to put so much more effort into their buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fimiak View Post
    Even though it will hopefully get a little more personality as its finished and opened, this building screams "middle America community college" and not "downtown Manhattan". Colleges used to put so much more effort into their buildings.
    That sums up my feelings perfectly.

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    There has been no lack of effort on this project: just a quick trac back on this thread will illustrate that fact. The results are disappointing; that much I can agree.

    IPD advocates would question the 'process'.

    http://www.designfuturescouncil.org/.../archive/2463/

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    Good thing the north elevation is on a narrow street and the least visible. The arrangement of windows on that face is truly ridiculous.

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    February 2, 2012:






























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    Park Place (Hunter Roberts might not want to show this side in their portfolio):




























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    Wow - those photos make for a powerful (if damming) post. Here we are this site after about seven years on untold millions of dollars in architecting,engineering,building: and this is the final result we have to show for it, pure mediocrity.

    On a more positive note, there is still a lot that can (and probably will) be done to improve on the look of those mis-alligned brick panels, as well as those large off-color seams; but the 'form-factor' - not much can be done to make improvements in that area.


    FOOD FOR THOUGHT REGARDING THE AEC INDUSTRY - http://www.metropolismag.com/pov/201...ng-as-business
    excerpt - "Not for them is the typical separation between architect and contractor with its daily time lags, as one party communicates information to the other. It is a well-known fact in the industry that this piece-meal process ultimately creates change orders and cost overruns."
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