8 Spruce Street - Beekman Tower - by Frank Gehry

[Alonzo-ny]

Thats better.

[scumonkey]

What we should realize is that she has an excuse....
she lives in Providence, Rhode Island....it has tainted her mind!
The people there tore open the pit that is their town, to
expose a long covered festering sewer of a river, and call it "Venice"
They sit in a cemetery on a hilltop to view their tiny (ahem) "Skyline"
(all of 2 towers), And for fun- drive by about the best
Art College in the country, hurling insults at the artists, and architects of the future.
There are more senior citizens in RI than almost anywhere except Florida,
and Not much has (building wise) changed there since the 17-1800's
Truly a stagnant place with backward thinking people -
After graduating from college there, I couldn't get away fast enough!

[TREPYE]

Sometimes you get a chance to see how full of crap some forumers are. So I asked Antinimby a simple question....

The left view IMO is in not going to be enhanced unless you honestly believe that Gehry's Beekman is better than the WW. Do you honestly believe that???? If you do then you are silly.

And instead of just anwering the question (probably cuz it goes against his feeble argument if he was to answer it honestly) in a very Rovean manner (Karl Rove that is) he decides to distort what I said. I clearly put up a picture describing the views that I was talking about.

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(courtesy of sherpa)

So instead Antinimby decides to distort my message by saying that this was the view I was talking aout......

This is your wonderful "left view" :

Even if I didnt provide the picture in my post any one who has walked through the Brooklyn Bridge knows that that is not what the left view looks like. It was tactics of deception like this that got an incompetent president elected twice and has driven the country to the ground. We should be able to identify them -the above example is a clear example of one.

So just in case any one ever wants to debate anything with Antinimby you should be aware how full of crap he can be. Some forumers are just not candid enough to debate them.

[antinimby]

TREPYE, you are the one full of crap.

Anyone with half a brain knows that your pic is deceptive. When you walk along the bridge, it is only at a certain point/angle does the Beekman tower obscure the Woolworth.

At the point where the pic you posted was taken, all one had to do was walk either closer to Manhattan or towards Brooklyn and the Woolworth would come back into view.

It's called perspective and any 10 year-old can figure that out.

I have been on the Brooklyn Bridge quite a few times. I know what the views look like. There is a mixture of good old buildings (Municipal Building, Woolworth, U.S. Courthouse, etc.) and there are the less flattering modern buildings (Southbridge, Pace University, and other faceless office boxes to the south).

Instead of admitting that the view is not what it used to be, and that many of the modern boxes have already ruined your distorted view, you go on with your FULL-OF-CRAP rant about how the Gehry tower will ruin your pristine view.

[antinimby]

Outside of the Woolworth, AIG and 40 Wall Street in this picture, does anyone else think the modern buildings in this view are attractive and have added to the attractiveness of that view?

[BrooklynRider]

I walked across today and the Woolworth is slowly and surely becoming obscured from the eastern approach of the bridge. It i still there, but it will be gone from the Brooklyn side of the skyline - only to reappear after crossing pass the Manhattan tower into Manhattan itself. It's not a tragedy, just a change. We have the 7 WTC, GS HQ, 101 Warren, and Barclay all piled up. There's nothing nostalgic here to long for. The skyline is modern. Let's hope it comes out better than any of us imagine, because, in that case, it will be slightly better than half-assed.

[NoyokA]

There's some excellent modern buildings in Lower Manhattan:

17 State Street
1 Financial Square
7 WTC
WTC(when they stood)

And some decent ones:
WFC
Former Marine Midland Bank Building
Continental Bank Building

[lofter1]

There sure is a lot of accusatory name calling going on in this thread.

So much for a Happy New Year, eh?

(If folks would go out and take pictures and post them here then (1) the focus would go back to the subject of the thread, and (2) the fresh air coudn't hurt.)

[NoyokA]

Its too cold out for that...

[BrooklynRider]

There sure is a lot of accusatory name calling going on in this thread.

So much for a Happy New Year, eh?

Ah yes... a reminder...

"Love and Light" everyone

We are all "Love and Light"

[Fabrizio]

Moderators: We would love to have lizbeth as a member of the Atlantic City thread if you can arrange it.

[195Broadway]

There sure is a lot of accusatory name calling going on in this thread.
So much for a Happy New Year, eh?

Maybe it peaked with yesterday's full moon.

[BrooklynLove]

Outside of the Woolworth, AIG and 40 Wall Street in this picture, does anyone else think the modern buildings in this view are attractive and have added to the attractiveness of that view?

I think that the Chase building is awful.

[BPC]

I think that the Chase building is awful.

Most people seem to. And yet it was just landmarked.

[NoyokA]

The Chase Building looks good upclose. From a distance it looks like a giant tin box and destroys the classical skyline. Interestingly the forms and color of the Gehry tower might better tie-in Chase Manhattan Plaza, we'll see..