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    I agree.

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    No skin except more bricks as of yesterday.

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    Thanks

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    According to lowermanhattan.info it should start coming up in February.

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    Thanks!

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    (Sorry londonlawyer, your distraction didn't work. I didn't start this. TREPYE did and I'm going to see this through. )


    Quote Originally Posted by TREPYE View Post
    OMG dude you're still doing it. Is it like pathological or something??
    Read this very C-A-R-E-F-U-L-L-Y
    Once you cross the Manattan tower this view that I described earlier is aready lost.
    Now think for a second.
    THINK.
    The view that I described encompases the gothic style arches of the Brooklyn bridge. See on the right side of the picture??
    Now as Brooklynrider describes it you will only be able to see it once you get past the tower portion, which incidentally is where the gothic arches are located.....
    Thus from the above angle which is the best one to see the architectural symbiosis of gothic styles in the view will soon be blocked by the Beekman tower thus the view that I spoke of earlier will be lost.
    We know that the WW is still to be vieable from other angles (nosh-t sherlock) but from that particular angle it will be lost, and the beekman does not improve that.
    Yeah you're right, let me correct that antinimble.
    Okay TREPY-ASS, you have shown yourself to be such a chameleon and BS artist. You are constantly changing your argument as you go along. Every time I exposed your phony claims you make up something else. First you say I was wrong and that the Beekman tower blocks the Woolworth from every point along the bridge. Then as I proved you wrong, you now resort to sarcasm with that Sherlock remark.

    You are the one that needs to read CAREFULLY. I said the same thing about three or four times already. The view of that side of the bridge from ANY part of the bridge outside of the spired-peaks of the three old towers, are not great. Most of the modern buildings have already ruined that view. I think everybody readily accepts that except you.

    Unlike those modern buildngs, the Beekman tower will enhance that not-so-great existent view eventhough it will block the view of the Woolworth from some points along the bridge. In an ideal world, the Woolworth and all these other landmark towers would never get block but we don't live in a perfect world.

    That has got to be the fifth time I have said this. Of course I don't expect you to admit that you're wrong.


    kz1000ps, there is no animosity on my part. He is the one that started the name-calling. Back and forth arguments are hardly anything new here on wirednewyork. Every one of the commenters here have had their fair share including you.
    Last edited by antinimby; January 23rd, 2009 at 08:58 PM.

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    The more classic view is more likely to be the BB with the Woolworth and the rest of the skyline in the background. This will be enhanced greatly by Beekman. From all the photos Ive taken from the bridge the ones containing WW have been on the Manhattan side of the Manhattan tower and they werent classics by any means.

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    how many more storeys until we see the next round of setbacks?

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    2 more and they will start working on what looks to be a double, then the setback.
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    Looks like the curtain wall has arrived on the site...

    Students learn cold realities of construction work


    Teens from the High School for Construction Trades, Engineering and
    Architecture in Queens toured the Frank Gehry-designed tower under
    construction on Beekman St. last week



    By Julie Shapiro
    January 23 - 29, 2009

    When it’s cold and windy in Lower Manhattan, it’s even colder and windier on the just-poured concrete floors of the rapidly rising Forest City Ratner tower on Beekman St.

    Joe Rechichi, a senior vice president with Ratner, stood on the tower’s frigid 29th floor last week and surveyed the progress.

    “It’s not easy building a tall building in Lower Manhattan,” he said.

    Rechichi has to contend with narrow streets, ancient utilities and dozens of neighboring projects competing for resources. The biggest challenge on the project so far was to convert famed architect Frank Gehry’s wavy design for the 76-story building from an idea into an engineered construction plan.

    Every floor of the building is different, so workers have to rebuild the concrete forms for each floor.

    “It’s tough,” Rechichi said. “But when it works, it feels great.”

    The Beekman tower has the distinction of being one of the few private projects that is moving ahead despite the faltering economy. Forest City closed on $680 million in construction financing last March, which Rechichi said will cover the project all the way to its completion in 2011. The building will contain the K-8 Spruce Street public school in the base, likely opening in 2011, and high-end apartments above.

    Shivering alongside Rechichi on the 29th floor last Wed., Jan. 14 were a dozen students from the High School for Construction Trades, Engineering and Architecture. The students usually learn about construction from their classrooms in Queens, but last week they traveled to Lower Manhattan to see work firsthand.

    At least one of the 400 workers in the tower was not happy to see students on the site. As the group headed through the ground floor, past cement trucks that spin all day long, an angry worker strode in the other direction.

    “The job stops because we got people on the job?” the worker said to no one in particular. “Get the [expletive] out of here.”

    The students ignored him and crammed onto the hoist, a temporary elevator that runs along the exterior of the construction. As the hoist rose, jerked, then continued rising, several students peeked nervously through the slats to see glimpses of lower buildings falling away. One girl buried her face in a tall boy’s sweatshirt.

    On the 29th floor, the students huddled around Rechichi, their hands thrust in their pockets. Where walls and windows will soon appear, there was only a swath of orange construction netting separating the students from the open air and sweeping views of the Brooklyn Bridge to the east and the Woolworth Building to the west.

    After explaining how each layer of concrete rises over the one below it, Rechichi led the students down to the seventh floor, where he pointed out a plywood rectangle that would become a rooftop swimming pool. Another part of the seventh floor was filled with tall crates of the stainless steel curtain wall that will soon begin wrapping the building.

    “In a few months, you will be seeing it from around the city,” Rechichi told the students.

    Bob Harvey, acting executive director of the Lower Manhattan Construction Command Center, helped organize the tour, which also took students down into the depths of the pedestrian tunnel construction for the Fulton Transit Center.

    “You don’t have to work out in the cold,” Harvey told the freezing students at the Beekman tower. “You can be an architect or an engineer.”

    Amritpal Singh, 16, appeared to take the advice to heart. While warming up in a McDonald’s after the tour, he said he had planned to be a construction worker but was surprised to see the men outside on such a cold day.

    “I want to be a manager now,” Singh said. “These guys out here were all red and cold. I want to sit in an office.”



    © 2009 Community Media, LLC

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    In this rendering the butt-ugly Chase building almost seems to be shirking away in shame as Mr. Beek takes all the attention away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrylStrawberry View Post
    2 more and they will start working on what looks to be a double, then the setback.
    Lovely. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    kz1000ps, there is no animosity on my part. He is the one that started the name-calling. Back and forth arguments are hardly anything new here on wirednewyork. Every one of the commenters here have had their fair share including you.
    Of course back-and-forths are WNY commonplace, but the amount of name calling going on here definitely is not typical.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynLove View Post
    In this rendering the butt-ugly Chase building almost seems to be shirking away in shame as Mr. Beek takes all the attention away.
    Do you find it to be butt-ugly because of its architecture, or for what it did to the skyline half a century ago? It always amazes me to hear such venom spewed its way (obviously I'm not talking about just you now, BL), because I find it to be one of the most handsome postwar skyscrapers put up anywhere in the world. Maybe it's simply a difference in tastes, but I get the impression that most people who loathe it feel that way due to its infamous role in history rather than because of any poor design qualities.

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    That pretty much sums it up. The view was already gone.

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