8 Spruce Street - Beekman Tower - by Frank Gehry

**NoyokA** · December 2nd, 2003, 09:38 PM

Purely speculation...55 storeys.
And a good, not great architect.

**JMC** · December 2nd, 2003, 09:52 PM

woo hoo! I'll see if I can't tap my city-planner friends for the scoop...

**Pottebaum** · December 2nd, 2003, 10:41 PM

It's really great to see a nice sized tower going up downtown!

**JMC** · December 3rd, 2003, 05:35 PM

I just caught wind that the NIMBYs over here, in Brooklyn, were handing out Turkey-shape cookies, on Thanksgiving, with the phrase, "Ratner is a turkey," written on them, in icing.

**Gulcrapek** · December 3rd, 2003, 05:43 PM

...I don't get it. Does he gobble up land or something?

**NYguy** · December 3rd, 2003, 06:09 PM

A view of the lot...

**NYguy** · December 3rd, 2003, 09:37 PM

A quote from another article concerning Pace's failed bid for the lot...

A third player, Pace University, is looking to expand by almost 400,000 square feet. The school is part of a group bidding to buy NYU Downtown Hospital's parking lot at 170 William St., to build a mixed-use development with dorms and classrooms.

It would have been an ideal location for expansion, being directly accross the street from the university.

It would be nice if the city provided zoning to allow for an additional 400,00 sf ft to the 818,000 square feet already allowed (a 50% increase).

That way the hospital could have its uses at the ground levels, or seperate entrance, then maybe 20 floors for Pace University, and on top of that the residential tower. Pace would jump on that faster than you could say "liberty bonds"...

**JMC** · December 4th, 2003, 12:13 AM

NYguy, you a helecoptor pilot or something!?

**NYguy** · December 4th, 2003, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by JMC

NYguy, you a helecoptor pilot or something!?

scanned from a book...I have another picture I may scan...

**NYguy** · December 4th, 2003, 04:31 PM

Here's another look at that lot...

**NoyokA** · December 4th, 2003, 04:31 PM

Ratner built the 111 Worth Street nearby and on another large parcel. Hopefully this property wont suck, but here's precedent for you:

**Gulcrapek** · December 4th, 2003, 04:43 PM

I wish people would stop choosing Kondylis for block-long buildings... him and them don't mix. (except possible at Riverplace)

**NYatKNIGHT** · December 4th, 2003, 05:22 PM

Sort of a crappy lot - you won't be able to see the lower floors from almost anywhere.

**billyblancoNYC** · December 4th, 2003, 07:14 PM

I'm sure there were height restictions, the community wanted it to "blend", etc. I think this will be different. Have faith... HE'S TRYING TO BUILD THE NY TIMES TOWER.