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Thread: 8 Spruce Street - Beekman Tower - by Frank Gehry

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    Thanks for the snaps, but I wish I hadn't seen this.

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    It seems like in this version the south face was going to be more "muted" than the other sides--is that accurate?

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    Will those who argued that the south facade was designed flat (not value-engineered) please step forward and eat crow.

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    WOW! That would have been nice. Do you think maybe they can start over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kz1000ps View Post

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    Recession must have done it.

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    ^
    What led you to that conclusion?

    Foundation work began early 2007. By Autumn 2007, there were already reports about "design issues" holding up construction.

    The HINDSIGHT consensus is that the recession began in Dec 2007. It's doubtful that any developer said at that time, "Hey, we're in a recession."

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    Too bad they decided against the little setbacks on that side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigchet View Post

    WOW! That would have been nice. Do you think maybe they can start over?
    To construct the waving ripples on the other facades each floor plate was specifically poured with the appropriate edge to fit the ripple for that floor. Conceivably they could create a wavy panel system that ties in with a flat-edged floor plate, but based on the way the other facades were constructed one would have to assume that if they went that route then costs would have been higher.

    The loss of the ripples and the little inset on this side points to one thing: Ratner was looking for ways to contain costs, and he sacrificed Gehry's vision for the south facade achieve his goal.

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    Heartbreaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyminee View Post
    It seems like in this version the south face was going to be more "muted" than the other sides--is that accurate?
    It seems that the model doesn't show full detail of the waves on the other facades, and that the as-built conditions show more realized waves on the other sides. I'd bet that this side would have been just as dramatic as the rest -- perhaps more so, due to its size.

    Imagine that side being hit by the sun in late afternoon -- WOW!

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    So does the top of the actual version have that ugly mechanical box at the top?

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    no two ways about it losing the rippled south side is a shame.

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