Reply With Quotethe facade is very similiar... hmmmmmmmmm i actually like it a whole lot on the chicago building haha! hopefully GS turns out the same
I like the GS tower. In fact, people in Chicago creamed over this new tower by PCF&P. It's similar to GS in terms of the shape and skin, but I like the GS a lot more.
Last edited by londonlawyer; August 15th, 2008 at 05:03 PM.
the facade is very similiar... hmmmmmmmmm i actually like it a whole lot on the chicago building haha! hopefully GS turns out the same
That ol' Chicago/NYC thing often has a way of slithering into the edges of many of these types of skyscraper discussions - which doesn't really surprise me.
If the truth be told, however, these curved façades have existed on buildings other than those cited, in a number of cities across this continent. In fact, we don't have to confine it to this continent. From what I understand, the direct predecessor to Chicago's Hyatt Center, is near Paris, and by the same firm - namely, Tour EDF.
La Défense's Tour Électricité de France (or EDF) - west of Paris.
Two views.
left - Courtesy of Wikimedia Commons; right - Courtesy flickr / Edgley Cesar
You might just say it is a shape that appeals, in spite of its familiarity. As you can see above and below, Tour EDF and Hyatt Center, respectively, double the visual curvature by applying that shape to both sides of the form, creating something approaching an oval or eyelid shaped top to crimped cylinders.
Chicago's Hyatt Center - in west Loop.
View just above roof.
Courtesy flickr / jasonhawley © All rights reserved.
Last edited by Zephyr; August 16th, 2008 at 02:24 AM. Reason: Add a few photographs and more commentary for clarity
he wasn't just comparing the shape, for the most part the facade is the same too
Pardon for that oversight.
When looking at the Hyatt in Chicago, I see sleek and elegant. All I see looking at Goldman Sachs is greed.
Perhaps because I know the Goldman tower's history?
The skin of the Chicago tower is far more elegant than the new GS -- which, for all its height, seems earthbound due mainly to the overwhelming horizontality of the facade ...
GS HQ NYC:
Chicago:
its still very similiar
http://flickr.com/photos/surangama/23426758/
In this picture it looks similar to a PS3Originally Posted by londonlawyer
I like the GS tower. In fact, people in Chicago creamed over this new tower by PCF&P. It's similar to GS in terms of the shape and skin, but I like the GS a lot more.
The materials are practically identical. Moreover, I prefer how GS has more glass as opposed to the Hyatt's windows being encassed in metal panes.
Similar, but entirely different in overall sensation. The Chicago tower is all about being vertical.
Please note the difference in the shape of the windows on the two towers.
I agree. A little detail like the horizontal mullions added to GS seems to make a big difference.
The other is the huge base, which drags the building down. The tower is too wide and too short to be sitting on a two block long, two acre box.
The east side of the building diminishes the impact of the curve. Look at the photo from the river, and remove the section between 7WTC and the curved west facade. It would look more like the Hyatt, more elegant.
The Chicago building is superior because it's curved on both sides.
...i don't think so...
This is a beautiful building. While better towers are being built in London, Beijing and Shanghai, I think that this is still really nice. We could have had a box a la Macklow, BP or Aby Rosen. Moreover, I am unaware of a better office building that's under construction or that was recently completed in the US.
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