njman. multiple subway lines lead directly to the front door of the barclays center. the path or njtransit/amtrak options are a pain in the a** - i've had to use them to get to newark several times during normal commuting hours so can comment from first hand experience. and you can't realisitically cab between newark and manhattan. on paper maybe you can make the place sound convenient but in reality it is not. if it was the nets would've moved there already.
also one cannot seriously debate this subject w/o considering that newark is a hole - sorry but downtown newark is awful. whereas fort greene is blossoming.
you're just setting yourself up for more pain by holding onto this pipe dream.
Yes it is,Originally Posted by BrooklynLove
Penn Station Newark: (NJ Transit, Amtrak, PATH), Broad Street Station Newark: (NJ Transit), Newark Airport, NJ Turnpike I-95, I-78, Garden State Parkway Route 1 & 9, Route 22 etc..
I'm sorry but while Newark has many disadvantages, it's convenience to transportation is certainly not one of them.
Highway access to Atlantic Yards is zero point zero.
see above. good on paper, not in real life. i'm sure you've worked with someone like that if you need to visualize.
I'm downtown Manhattan and close to a PATH station & various Express MTA stations. From here it's just as fast to get to Newark as it is to go to the AY area. And when I go to Newark I don't have to see that ugly stuff Ratner has built in BK. Did I mention that right now Newark already has an arena?
AY wins the convenience to transportation when you factor in the density of the fan base. But that doesn't mean it's a problem for Newark.
If I were forced to put down a bet, I'd put it on the Nets not going to AY. Close, but I think it's leaning that way, and more important, so is the momentum.
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Some history for you BK Love, from a real NEW JERSEY Nets, the Nets and Yankees were in a partnership from 1999-2004, that is why the Nets and Yanks are on the YES Network. The Nets had all intentions in moving to Newark full speed ahead. The Nets wanted the Yanks to assist them financially with the Newark arena, but the Yanks said no dice because they were trying to lay the groundwork for the new Yankee Stadium. So the Nets and Yanks parted ways and the Nets went up to the highest bidder. Charles Kushner, Jon Corzine, and Bruce Ratner then went into a bidding war with the result Ratner out bidding future Gov. Jon Corzine. Ratner than said instead of moving the team to Newark, which was always the teams plan till he bought them, that he was going to take them to Brooklyn as a pawn in this Atlantic Yards, future enema of BKLYN, boondoggle. So until he bought the Nets they were going full speed ahead to Newark. Thats the truth.
I doubt a flight is in the normal fans trip. Im not going to read your info because A: It will be boosterism and B: because i cant read when you make so much bold and underline!!!!!!!!!
As for a NYC resident's transport to AY or Newark, its pretty obvious a subway ride with transfers is going to be much easier for the majority of fans in the city.
That is only half true.
The partnership came into existence when the sale of the Yankees to Cablevision fell through in 1998. YankeeNets was formed, which in turn, created a subsidiary, Puck Holdings, which bought the Devils.
The idea was that by owning both the Nets and Devils, it would be easier to leverage a new arena in Newark.
But YankeeNets sold off both the Nets and Devils because they were a financial drain on the company, losing significant money every year. I think the Devils even lost money the two years they won the Stanley Cup.YankeeNets reorganized as Yankee Global Enterprises, with two subsidiaries - the Yankees (which owns the stadium) and the YES network, in which the Yankees own 49%.
That part is true but it was because they were both in the Meadowlands. The Devils have seen an increase of revenue with moving to the Prudential Center.
That was all facts Alonzo not boosterism, it is facts, try reading it. I'll even help you. Don't be a putz.
It doesn't matter. What you stated is incorrect. The new stadium had nothing to do with it.
JCMan - 2 words that you need to get used to hearing together:
Brooklyn, Nets.
Repeat after me now.
Brooklyn Nets Brooklyn Nets Brooklyn Nets.
Acceptance is the first step to recovery.
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You're starting to sound a little worried.
Take out the unnecessary bold and underline and I will.
^^^I reduced it greatly. Yes Zippy the stadium did have something to do with it, that was the straw that broke the camel's back; they wanted the Yanks to kick in money for the stadium.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YankeeNets
From Wikipedia:
"Acquisition of the Devils
YankeeNets created an affiliate, Puck Holdings, which purchased the New Jersey Devils ice hockey team, to have relationships in all major league professional sports, and to give better leverage to the Nets in constructing a new arena in Newark, New Jersey.
The breakup of YankeeNets
In 2003, reports leaked that the Yankees and Nets sides of the organization were in disagreement with each other. The Yankee ownership in Tampa did not want any part in paying for an arena for the Nets and Devils, as the teams were money-losers.This led to the Nets being sold to Bruce Ratner, who intends to move the team to an arena in Brooklyn, New York and the Devils being sold to businessman Jeffrey Vanderbeek, who moved the franchise to the Prudential Center in Newark, NJ, that was originally proposed by the previous Nets ownership. Since the breakup, the Devils also extended their television contract with Cablevision, ending the speculation that they would move to YES once their initial contract expired after the 2006-07 hockey season.
The legacy of YankeeNets is the YES Network, which has allowed both teams to dramatically increase their revenues. This has allowed the Yankees to front the $800 million to construct their New Yankee Stadium."
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