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    Agreed, the new designs just keep getting worse and less contextual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek2k3 View Post
    New renderings of the 35-story hotel tower posted on Brennan Beer Gorman's website. Prefer it either taller or shorter than Bush Tower and I wish the mass would be moved away from BT so it still somewhat reads as a free-standing sliver. I believe they need Landmarks needs to review the design.
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    We will be VERY LUCKY if this is built. Peter Poon filed a NB permit on Sep 15, 2011 for a 35 story tower. I hope that he's a mere filing agent for someone else.

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    Lucky? A stack of glass that totally blocks the Bush Tower: Not so lucky for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Lucky? A stack of glass that totally blocks the Bush Tower: Not so lucky for us.

    Do you prefer a 35 story stack of sh.it by PPA that blocks the Bush Tower? The rendering that Derek posted clearly is the lesser of two evils.

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    just because something is the lessor of two evils (so sad it almost always comes down to what's at the bottom of the barrel),- either way we lose.
    Just another variation of wrong/ugly, doesn't make us any more lucky- one way or the other.

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    I respectfully disagree. Of course, I'd like to see something of Torre Verre's calibre rise here. However, as that will not happen, at least a decent glass box would be preferable to a hideous 35-story monstrosity. Poon's pieces of S are tolerable when they're hidden on sidestreets. However, this eyesore will detract from a revived area.

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    However, this eyesore will detract from a revived area.
    both presentations are eysores (one just a little less than the other)
    and poons piece's of S will hinder the areas they are in from ever being revived...completely intolerable - i'll respectfully agree to disagree with you as well.
    new ugly shouldn't be tolerated on any street( no matter what degree).

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumonkey View Post
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    new ugly shouldn't be tolerated on any street( no matter what degree).
    I agree. I've repeatedly said that I wish NY embraced London's philosophy that even new structure should be high-quality. However, we're not London, and therefore, to the extent that extremely low-quality architecture is inevitable, I'd rather have it hidden on W36th Street between 9th and 10th than on 42nd directly across from BofA.

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    Yep it should be a new design. The BBG designs were done when Istithmar owned the properties. Now this and the Knickerbocker are owned by Dallas based Highgate. Poon is the architect doing the Knickerbocker upgrade as well. I believe any exterior work on the Knickerbocker and the design of new building has to be approved by landmarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek2k3 View Post
    Yep it should be a new design. The BBG designs were done when Istithmar owned the properties. Now this and the Knickerbocker are owned by Dallas based Highgate. Poon is the architect doing the Knickerbocker upgrade as well. I believe any exterior work on the Knickerbocker and the design of new building has to be approved by landmarks.
    That may be the only saving grace.

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    Poon the goon messing with two landmarks?

    LPC better not drop the ball with this one.

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    Why would the lots at 140 West 42nd or 136 West 42nd need to pass muster at Landmarks? Bush & Knickerbocker are individual landmarks. These lots in between have no such designations.

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    21 April 2012

    136 W 42nd St


    136 W 42nd St


    east of 136 W 42nd St

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    Isn't this where that nutty Evangelical broad used to hang out with her megaphone?

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    I shutter to think of the absolute POS Poon has planned for this site. Maybe the flea market wasn't so bad after all.

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