View Poll Results: How do you rate One Liberty Plaza?

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    When I look at these I see a Rolls, a fine Swiss watch, a Brioni suit. It's just fine, fine, tailoring... it gives me chills. Note how earthy and solid.

    The public does not see it because it is not flash and glitter. "Fit" and quality are not important. Not even on the radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    Two buildings under construction at the same time, two takes on a common theme: not curtain wall, but exoskeleton:






    A bold idea, now largely abandoned.
    Really???












    IMO not abandoned. How about much more intriguingly/tastefully executed nowadays.

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    Five gorgeous examples!

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    Gorgeous to the contemporary eye, but as Ablarc in 'Sixties Demolitions' hypothesizes, 50 years from now those structures may look misshapen, primitive and ill-considered.

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    All of the examples are beautiful. But notice how the first 2 just jump right out.

    They remind me of this:

    http://www.supanet.com/media/00/09/90/Hepburn_210.jpg

    Chic. Simple. Timeless. Adult.

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    re impressions of 1 liberty and the adjoining plaza, i'll be forever scarred by the images of what became of the building's ground floor space and the plaza during the several days immediately following 9-11. i just try to avoid looking at the place now.

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    Forever scarred, understandable, it IS very personal. A precedent however:

    23 Wall Street:

    http://www.nyc-architecture.com/LM/L...STBUILDING.htm
    http://terrorism.about.com/od/origin...StreetBomb.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by TREPYE View Post
    IMO not abandoned.
    Perhaps, depending on definition. Technically, your examples are diagonally-braced frames with curtain walls. Philosophically, these are transitional between frames and structural bearing walls. You could regard them as exoskeletons, though most of the surface is not structural; these buildings (except Foster's) concentrate their gravity loads in vertical columns just as the Empire State Building did. So ... yes, if you lean towards a certain definition.

    How about much more intriguingly/tastefully executed nowadays.
    Matter of opinion? Seen one X-brace, seen them ... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    Forever scarred, understandable, it IS very personal. A precedent however:

    23 Wall Street:

    http://www.nyc-architecture.com/LM/L...STBUILDING.htm
    http://terrorism.about.com/od/origin...StreetBomb.htm


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    yup, i've checked out the blast divets. would be interesting to meet someone lving today who witnessed that blast - still possible i guess, but barely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    Perhaps, depending on definition. Technically, your examples are diagonally-braced frames with curtain walls. Philosophically, these are transitional between frames and structural bearing walls. You could regard them as exoskeletons, though most of the surface is not structural; these buildings (except Foster's) concentrate their gravity loads in vertical columns just as the Empire State Building did.
    Not true for MOMA Spire or Silvercup West, the exterior bracing is the structure.

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    I think a brighter color will give this building a lot more attention. Just look at how the primer sticks out.

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    Mmmm...maybe if it was white?...

    ...Nope, still hate it. Can't forgive the destruction of the Singer Tower and the City Investing Building.

    Doesn't deserve any more attention . W-O-R-S-T building in Manhattan...and there are a good few contenders.

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    Hate this building so much.

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