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    World Trade Center Museum To Open
    A Year Later Than Planned

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    November 07, 2006

    Officials announced Tuesday that the opening for the World Trade Center museum will be pushed back to 2010.

    Earlier estimates set the opening for the underground facility and the above-ground memorial a year earlier. But officials said that construction will prevent the two sites from opening together.

    The only way to access the museum will be through a visitor’s center, and that will not open until 2010. However, officials for the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation said they are trying to speed-up that timetable.

    The memorial, anchored by twin reflecting pools, is still set to open in 2009. Once the museum opens, visitors will be able to view the pools’ waterfalls from below.

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    This Star Search Hunts for Trees Worthy of Memorial


    Brian Branch Price for The New York Times
    Sweetgum trees, like these, and white oaks will
    be chosen for the World Trade Center site and
    moved for cultivation until they are planted in 2009.

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    By DAVID W. DUNLAP
    November 19, 2006

    MILLSTONE TOWNSHIP, N.J., Nov. 17 — From the gently inclined open field at Back Bone Hill and Stillhouse Roads, ground zero is 38 miles away. Thirty-eight miles and three years.

    This is the field where 380 swamp white oaks and 57 sweetgums — to be shipped in from nearby states — will be kept and cultivated before making one more journey in 2009, to the World Trade Center memorial in Lower Manhattan.

    The search for these trees has begun in earnest at nurseries in New Jersey and in roadside fields in Maryland. (Five sweetgums were ceremonially tagged last year on Long Island.) On Nov. 9, the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation selected Environmental Design of Tomball, Tex., to find, choose, transport, replant and care for the trees, working with the landscape architects at Peter Walker and Partners of Berkeley, Calif.

    Brian Branch Price for The New York Times
    Peter Walker, a landscape architect, at a nursery.

    These trees will essentially be the architecture of the memorial, forming allees and bowers around the two great voids where the twin towers stood. They will be a canopy for the memorial and a buffer from the skyscrapers all around. They will also be the memorial’s stained-glass ceiling, turning from wintry silver to chartreuse in springtime, then to emerald at the height of summer.

    And in early autumn, if ideal conditions are met, the circle of sweetgums around the memorial glade will break away in color from the neighboring oaks. Around mid-September as the oaks turn brown, the sweetgums’ star-shaped leaves will turn yellow, orange and red.

    Peter Walker, the landscape architect, imagines this as a setting for the annual reading of the names of the dead on Sept. 11. “It seemed very appropriate that something synonymous with early fall was going on,” he said.

    The tree scouts will be looking for straight trunks and branches that can be pruned to create a uniform canopy. They will keep an eye out for trees less than 20 feet high, with trunks about four or five inches in diameter. As a contingency against death and damage, they will identify about 10 percent more trees than are needed at the memorial.

    Several potential sources have been identified: Halka Nurseries of Englishtown, N.J., which also owns the 12-acre field in Monmouth County where the trees are to be kept; High Ridge Farms of Imlaystown, N.J.; and some sweetgum stands along state highways in Maryland. Other trees may come from Pennsylvania.

    The chosen trees will be dug up next spring by mechanical spades, placed in large boxes and trucked to the field in Millstone, where they will be kept boxed until 2009. Climatically, the area is comparable to Lower Manhattan.

    “The cold events and wind events that you’d get there are not far from what you’d get here,” said Tom Cox, the owner of Environmental Design, during a visit to the New Jersey nurseries on Friday.

    Because the contract with Environmental Design has not been signed, Joseph C. Daniels, the president of the memorial foundation, would not divulge its value aside from saying that it was less than $10 million. The trees themselves are almost the least of it, costing only a few hundred dollars each.

    “The real care that’s required is where the hard work and the cost come in,” Mr. Daniels said.


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    Joseph C. Daniels of the memorial foundation
    at what is to be the trees’ temporary home.

    As an example, Douglas Ross Findlay of Peter Walker and Partners described the planting and paving system planned for the memorial plaza, which is actually the rooftop of an enormous underground structure.

    In most plazas, the pavement bears down on the pits in which the trees are planted, resulting in soil so compacted that roots cannot grow adequately.

    At the memorial, the pavement will be suspended over the planting troughs like a deck set on structural legs. That will allow the soil to stay loose and permit the roots to extend themselves.

    Conceivably, the oaks and sweetgums could live a century or more, said Paul F. Cowie, an arborist working on the project.

    And that is the idea of the living memorial, Mr. Findlay said. “They’re sacred trees,” he said. “They need to thrive and grow and become old.”

    Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

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    December 14, 2006

    Plan Is Changed for Arranging Names on Trade Center Memorial

    By DAVID W. DUNLAP

    The World Trade Center Memorial Foundation abandoned a longstanding plan yesterday to list victims’ names in purely random fashion around the twin pools of the 9/11 memorial — a plan that had angered family members and firefighters — in favor of a more ordered arrangement.

    The new plan was endorsed by Stephen J. Cassidy, the president of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, but was criticized by Edith Lutnick, the executive director of the Cantor Fitzgerald Relief Fund. Cantor suffered the greatest death toll: 658 employees, including Ms. Lutnick’s brother Gary.

    Under the new plan, firefighters and police officers would be grouped by command or precinct or company — but not by rank — in a ribbon of names on a parapet overlooking the south pool.

    Also around the south pool would be the names of those who died in the south tower; aboard United Airlines Flight 175, which hit the tower; and on the flights that crashed in Pennsylvania and at the Pentagon. The six people who died in the Feb. 26, 1993, trade center bombing would be listed there, as would those whose exact location on 9/11 is unknown.

    Around the north pool would be the names of those who died in the north tower and those who were aboard American Airlines Flight 11, which crashed into the tower.

    Employees could be grouped together but there would be no indication of the company’s identity on the parapet. An unknowing visitor, therefore, would still perceive the names as random, while those who knew a given victim would recognize that the surrounding names were those of co-workers.

    Spouses, siblings and other relatives could also be listed together. Ages, however, would not be given next to the names, nor would the tower floors be specified.

    The plan was adopted by the foundation’s executive committee after a presentation by Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who is also the foundation chairman.

    “There is no ‘right’ answer,” Mr. Bloomberg said in a statement. “Nevertheless, it is time to move forward. I believe the solution we present today strikes the right balance, and although I don’t expect everyone to be happy with it, I can assure everyone that their views were heard as we struggled with this question.”

    Michael Arad, who won the memorial design competition with a proposal to arrange the names in a way that would create “meaningful adjacencies,” said that the new plan represented a “very positive direction.”

    Mr. Cassidy agreed. “It’s fitting,” he said, “that those who perished that day be listed together with their brothers who they went into battle with.”

    But Ms. Lutnick said that that was one of the flaws of the new plan: that civilians — unlike uniformed personnel — would not be listed explicitly by affiliation. “You’ll know from this memorial who died at the Pentagon, who died on Flight 175 and who was a firefighter,” she said. “Why do civilians not deserve the same respect and remembrance?”

    She said the plan — “almost a unilateral action” by Mayor Bloomberg — failed to take into account what people always asked about a victim: “What was his age? Where did he work? What floor was he on?”


    Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

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    Manhattan: $253 Million for 9/11 Memorial

    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Published: January 26, 2007

    Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who is also chairman of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, told the foundation’s board yesterday that the foundation had raised $253.8 million toward its $300 million goal. Almost $52 million, about one-fifth of the total raised so far, has been pledged in the last six weeks. A spokeswoman for the foundation declined to identify any of the new contributors. The memorial is expected to cost more than $500 million.

    Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company

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    I wonder how much was spent raising that much cash.

    I also wonder if I would be tolerant of an oligarchy if they were competent.

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    AM New York
    February 1, 2007

    Tour to promote 9/11 memorial will let donors sign steel

    By AMY WESTFELDT
    Associated Press Writer

    The World Trade Center Memorial is going on tour.

    Builders of the memorial to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks plan to visit 20 U.S. cities this summer, bearing firefighters' helmets and other artifacts from the planned museum, as well as steel columns for Americans to sign, in an effort to drum up donations and national support.

    After a slow start to fundraising and controversy over its cost and design, the memorial has been under construction for nine months and has raised more than $100 million privately in the past four months, $253 million overall.

    The World Trade Center Memorial Foundation still faces opposition. Some family members upset about the way that names will be arranged have launched a Web site and are airing television ads. And beyond New York City, Americans still are unsure of what the memorial is and what it will look like, planners say.

    "We think that the success of this memorial requires the participation of the American public," foundation president Joseph Daniels said.

    Steel columns that will form the foundation of the "Reflecting Absence" memorial will travel with foundation officials, Sept. 11 family members, survivors and first responders and occasionally foundation chairman Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Daniels said.

    The mayor, who helped spark fundraising again after taking over as chairman in October, said in a statement that he hopes a tour "will help raise awareness and encourage thousands of other people from across the country to support building what will become a lasting national tribute."

    Visitors will be invited to sign the steel _ which won't be visible, but may be acknowledged if visitors later go to the memorial _ and make small donations, Daniels said. So far, 30,000 people have donated to the memorial; Daniels predicted hundreds of thousands of donors would be added on the tour.

    There are no set cities and dates yet, although the foundation plans to include cities like Boston and San Francisco, beginning and end points of some of the hijacked jetliners that crashed on Sept. 11, 2001. The foundation was to issue a formal request on Thursday for bids from marketing firms to manage the tour. Local firehouses could be the exhibition halls for some of the touring cities.

    "Reflecting Absence," designed by Michael Arad and Peter Walker, creates two reflecting pools with cascading waterfalls just above the footprints of the destroyed twin towers. The pools would list the names of those killed in stone parapets surrounding the pools in an oak tree-filled plaza. The memorial plaza is scheduled to open in two years, while an underground, Sept. 11 museum is expected to open a year later.

    The foundation hopes to raise $350 million privately for the memorial; government agencies are pitching in more than $400 million to build it.

    Copyright 2007 AM New York

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    I'm guessing the cobblestone sales have been a bit flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMac View Post
    AM New York
    February 1, 2007

    Tour to promote 9/11 memorial will let donors sign steel

    By AMY WESTFELDT
    Associated Press Writer
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    The World Trade Center Memorial Foundation still faces opposition. Some family members upset about the way that names will be arranged have launched a Web site and are airing television ads....

    Copyright 2007 AM New York
    You gotta be kidding me. Could someone tell these people they are doing more harm than good to the memories of their lost loved ones?

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    Thumbs down

    Each one of them has a few million dollars to throw around for their cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    Manhattan: $253 Million for 9/11 Memorial

    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Published: January 26, 2007

    Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who is also chairman of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, told the foundation’s board yesterday that the foundation had raised $253.8 million toward its $300 million goal. Almost $52 million, about one-fifth of the total raised so far, has been pledged in the last six weeks. A spokeswoman for the foundation declined to identify any of the new contributors. The memorial is expected to cost more than $500 million.

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    Two points:

    A. Why does there have to be a fund raising for such a thing? Why isn't there simply a public budget allocated? There sure seems to be money for all kinds of pork, why not just a good City+State+Government budget for a memorial so it gets done properly? Am I going to sit my but* on a bench-nametag with mr. $o and $o who gave some of his money instead of just paying taxes?

    B. I personally find the waterfall ideas a bit to much. Its a cool concept, but I am not sure I like it for this purpose. I find the WW2 walled memorial at Battery Park quite strong in many ways, its simple and SILENT. Vietnam memorial in DC superb in its simplicity. And Silence. Maybe cultures have changed and there is a need for the rollercoaster/Foxnews effect? Or is it going to be more subtle than I picture it?
    Last edited by drcronex; February 6th, 2007 at 07:04 PM.

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    One idea behind the waterfalls (and one reason that Libeskind included a waterfall aspect to the Memorial in his original Master Plan) is because of the proximity of the site to the West Side Hiway and the need / desire to use the moving water to mask the sound of traffic, etc.

    I agree with you about the simplicity of both the WW2 / VN Memorials -- but both are in "park" settings and away from the interruption / noise of traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    One idea behind the waterfalls (and one reason that Libeskind included a waterfall aspect to the Memorial in his original Master Plan) is because of the proximity of the site to the West Side Hiway and the need / desire to use the moving water to mask the sound of traffic, etc.

    I agree with you about the simplicity of both the WW2 / VN Memorials -- but both are in "park" settings and away from the interruption / noise of traffic.
    I'd say, that this is a reasonable concept as far as it goes. I'd think that there is limited noise in those planned underground bunkers anyhow, and the site is quite sizeable (I realize it is just a part of the bathtub). The idea of water masking out noise can work well, as in the famous Pailey Park on 52nd street (still one of my favorite spots).
    But is there to much of the good thing? I guess I am thinking whats going to mask out the noise of the water? I also find the large waterwall dropping in that location a bit disturbing, given our experiences in the area. Is it an attempt to recreate something?
    Last edited by drcronex; February 13th, 2007 at 05:47 PM.

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    There was a time that I wondered what would make Mr. Kaufman give up ownership of that famous Wright-designed house.
    Besides the obvious maintenance problems, maybe the incessant noise of the falling water became a torment. 'Just no getting away from it without leaving altogether.

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    from www.nypost.com
    ELIOT BACKTRACKS ON WTC WALL OF HONOR
    By TOM TOPOUSIS and FREDRIC U. DICKER


    February 23, 2007 -- Under intense pressure from Mayor Bloomberg, Gov. Spitzer yesterday beat a quick retreat from his surprise pledge to reopen the emotional question of how to list victims' names on the World Trade Center Memorial.
    Spitzer, who on Tuesday said he wanted a "very public discussion" on what Bloomberg had insisted was already decided, now believes the memorial foundation board has the final say, a governor's aide said.
    "The mayor explained the board's careful deliberations and decision," spokeswoman Christine Anderson said. "Ultimately, it is the board's decision, and the conversation provided greater clarity about those deliberations."
    Meanwhile, the Freedom Tower won its final approval yesterday from Port Authority officials, who also awarded $492 million in construction contracts for the massive building.
    Officials at the agency also ruled out any major design changes to the 1,776-foot-high tower, which will be sheathed in glass and topped with an antenna.

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    Were the original façades (especially the south tower ones) too dangerous to keep up, even with hidden support?

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