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    Looks closer to 800 on the skyline shot.

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    Unhappy Say it aint so....

    So we are going from this




    to this




    Sorta like going from this ...


    (Filet mignon)

    To this


    (slice of bread)

    ...........
    :-/


    UGH! What a kick in the gut!
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    but still better than this:

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    quality material

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    Maybe it was the add campaign that killed the first concept-

    Come and get 'em.... Come and get em...
    apartments on a stick..... apartments on a stick...
    Right here....Come and get em... apartments on a stick.....

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    If they were viewed as "apartments on a stick", I don't think any ad campaign would have helped.

    Only 24 people with a lot of disposable income was needed. The marketing must have been narrowly focused.

    I still think that, from the beginning, the design of the building eliminated a segment of wealthy people from considering a purchase - those that don't want to advertise their wealth or their residence. You could stand on the Brooklyn Bridge and know that so-and-so lives in one of those cubes.

    Contrast that with the more discreet and anonymous 15CPW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREPYE View Post
    Sciame should just stop being so stubborn and break the boxes up into smaller apartments already. It is becoming absurdly obvious that there is not a demand for 30-60 million dollar townhouses in the sky. Make 4-2 different apartments per box with the option of consolidating a whole box to yourself in the future. The design of this tower has a great perk in that not only can you sell 25-30 regular luxury type apartments but also, in addition, there are 10 different penthouse-like apartments within the stucture.
    I still don't understand why they haven't done this. It would have fared so much better than this unreasonable financial expectation of having the ultra rich of spending ten of millions of dollars in a very ostentatious/nonprivate manner (like zippy says).

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    The new exterior pattern reminds me of William Beaver House, and I'm sure it'll be just as disappointing.

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    It reminds me of the god-awful federal building, as well as the Beav. I absolutely do not want to see this project rise in this form.

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    http://www.nypost.com/seven/04162008...own_106788.htm

    'SKY CUBES' MELTDOWN
    CALATRAVA DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL PROJECT DEAD




    April 16, 2008

    ANOTHER proposed Santiago Calatrava tower is not just getting its wings clipped; it's biting the dust.

    This project was eagerly awaited for a small site at 80 South St. by the East River and featured townhomes in the sky.

    The design called for an 835-foot tall tower with a dozen "Sky Cube" townhouses alternating around a central core so that one's roof would become the outdoor garden for the cube above and to the side. An antenna was to bring the entire structure to 1,000 feet. Its base was being pitched to cultural, retail and office users.

    The architecturally significant tower was introduced to much critical acclaim and a price tag of around $35 million per multi-story residence.

    "The price reflects both design and quality," developer Frank Sciame told us at the time, "and it will be the most expensive residential tower in the city."

    Back at the end of 2005, and throughout 2006 and 2007, the potential prices inspired much awe - and apparently not a lot of takers.

    Oddly, while the site is now on the market and expected to fetch around $115 million, equating to $400 per buildable foot, in the last year, the luxury market has racked up many sales higher than that benchmark, albeit in more traditional locations, such as around Central Park.

    The Power Trio of Jimmy "King" Kung, David Noonan and Jennifer Schwartzman have just been hired by the investor group that includes Sciame and Cord Meyer Development to market the 8,128-foot parcel at South and Fletcher streets that holds up to 288,670 feet of development with no height restriction. While all of it can be developed as commercial or hotel space, as much as 144,318 feet can be residential.

    "It's an exciting vision that got worldwide attention," said Noonan. "The buyer can build their own vision."

    It appears at least one other developer has already scoped this out. Cook + Fox architects created and posted renderings of a "competition submission" on their Web site that was described as a "constructible solution for a small urban site."

    The designs include an "80" on the tower's entrance and it's located in the right spot on the waterfront. A city sleuth discovered the drawings and reposted them on Wired New York.


    A spokeswoman for Cook + Fox, Alice Hartley told us the renderings were created for a private developer who requested proposals from five firms about six months ago and has declined to be identified. Apparently, however, it is neither Sciame nor Cord Meyer.

    The Cook + Fox design has already won an American Institute of Architects New York City award.

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    yo son. i'm a city sleuth.

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    keep at it ... no slackin' now

    fame be fleeting.

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    He ain't no country or suburban sleuth, but a city one!

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    Damn you Schiame for showing no scrotes!!

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