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    Madrid Bomb Suspects Blow Up Themselves, Policeman

    Sat Apr 3, 8:08 PM ET

    By Daniel Flynn

    LEGANES, Spain (Reuters) - Three suspects wanted for the Madrid train bombings set off a bomb when cornered in a flat, killing themselves and a policeman, as Spain's search for the perpetrators of the attacks went wrong.

    Spanish news agency Europa Press, quoting security force sources, said the suspects were among six men for whom Spain issued arrest warrants on March 31 in connection with the March 11 attacks on Madrid commuter trains that killed 191 people.

    Police swooped on the working-class Madrid suburb of Leganes on Saturday evening in an attempt to round up several suspects.

    The operation turned ugly when the occupants of the first-floor flat, said by neighbors to be Moroccans in their 20s, spotted the police and began firing while shouting and chanting in Arabic, officials and local residents said.

    The police were about to raid the flat when the suspects set off an explosion, demolishing the front of the five-storey apartment block.

    "There are three bodies of suspected terrorists who may have killed themselves," Interior Minister Angel Acebes told a late-night news conference.

    A police officer of the elite Special Operations Group was also killed and 11 police were injured, Acebes said.

    The powerful blast sent a pall of smoke into the air, left a gaping hole in the front of the block, damaged nearby buildings and left a pile of rubble on the ground.

    Police cordoned off the area. Residents of surrounding blocks were evacuated and 30 families had to spend the night at a hotel because they could not return to their damaged homes.

    QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD

    "This is a very quiet neighborhood. There's no conflict here. But it's places like this where these people try to hide," said local resident Juan Manuel Velez.

    Spain is holding 15 people, many of them Moroccan, over the March 11 attacks.

    Acebes has singled out the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group -- a shadowy organization believed to be tied to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network -- as prime suspect in the bombings.

    He said one suspect in the flat may have escaped before the police cordoned off the area but he could not be sure.

    Acebes said earlier on Saturday a bomb found on a high-speed rail track on Friday contained the same make of explosive and may have a similar detonator to the March 11 bombs.

    However, officials cautioned that both the explosives and detonators are widely used in mining.

    Investigators believe extremists planned to derail a high-speed train in an attack that might have killed hundreds.

    The government refused to blame any group for Friday's thwarted bomb.

    High-speed trains from Madrid to the southern city of Seville began running again on Saturday after the 26-lb bomb was defused.

    Police and army backed by helicopters and armored vehicles, were guarding the line but passengers were nervous.

    "It always affects you. You can't be calm. Everything seems fairly under control...but there could have been another March 11 yesterday," said 40-year-old chemist Jose Antonio Perez.

    Trains that would normally have been packed with travelers leaving town for the Holy Week holiday had lots of empty seats.

    El Pais newspaper said Spain, a strong supporter of U.S. policy on Iraq under outgoing Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, was the main al Qaeda base in Europe and that police believed it could strike here again.

    But Socialist leader Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who takes office later this month after his surprise victory in elections three days after the Madrid bombs, has pledged to bring 1,300 Spanish troops home from Iraq if the United Nations does not take charge there by the end of June.

    Copyright © 2004 Reuters Limited.

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    This is horrible.

    I must say though, maybe this will knock some sense into European countries.

    This war against Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden is a battle we ALL must fight.

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    Think about why Spain, of all places in Europe: the last thousand years of that nation, political and demographic changes, Inquisitions, etc. This isn't just about Spain's participation in the Iraq war, it's revenge for the Reconquista. Several terrorist leaders have gone public in stating that that is one of their motives.

    As much as I disagree with the Iraq war, withdrawing Spanish troops is not going to stem the tide; hopefully Zapatero understands this. Even after his announcement that the troops would be leaving once he was sworn in, a bomb was found planted on an isolated stretch of an intercity railroad—thankfully it was defused. These are dark times.

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    February 15, 2007

    Egyptian Is Focus of Attention as Madrid Bomb Trial Opens


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    The bombings killed 191 people in Madrid on March 11, 2004.

    By ELISABETTA POVOLEDO and IAN FISHER

    ROME, Feb. 14 — He is charged with 191 counts of murder and 1,755 of attempted murder in the Madrid bombings on March 11, 2004, though he has been secretly recorded saying that he had not been with the men who carried them out.

    But the man, Rabei Osman Sayed Ahmed — expected to be the first of 29 defendants to take the stand when the bombing trial begins Thursday in Madrid — also said in the recordings that the attack was carried out according to his plan. He said he only wished that he himself had been graced with death that day.

    “I am the thread behind the Madrid plot,” Mr. Ahmed, an Egyptian militant, told a prospective suicide bomber in a bugged house in Milan in May 2004. “I wanted to plan it so it would be something unforgettable, including myself because I was ready to blow myself up. But they stopped me.”

    At the start of a trial laden with anger and unresolved grief, Spanish officials and news media have focused on Mr. Ahmed, a man with a well-documented legal trail.

    In November, he was convicted in Milan, where he was arrested in 2004, three months after the Madrid bombings, on charges of conspiracy to participate in international terrorist activities. Prosecutors convinced a panel of judges that those activities included strong links with the Madrid bombers.

    Accounts of secret recordings of Mr. Ahmed and other evidence released after the Rome trial suggest that Muslim militants were highly mobile and in frequent contact with one another, discussing not only attacks in Europe but also recruitment for suicide bombers in Iraq.

    “This case is the first to show a clear link between terrorists prepared to carry out suicide missions in Iraq as well as in Europe,” a senior Italian investigator said.

    But since Mr. Ahmed’s arrest, questions have hovered about whether he was a dangerous operative or something of a braggart puffed up by too much time spent on violent jihadist Web sites.

    Luca D’Auria, his defense lawyer in Italy and in Spain, said that as much as Mr. Ahmed talked, no direct link from him to the bombers was proved. Seven major suspects blew themselves up en masse in Madrid on April 3, 2004, weeks after the train bombings, as the Spanish police closed in on them. Among them was Sarhane ben Abdelmajid Fakhet, known as the Tunisian, who has been identified as the operational mastermind of the bombings.

    Like Mr. Ahmed — considered an “intellectual author” of the bombings — two other defendants are considered ideological planners: Hassan el-Haski, a Moroccan who was the leader of a group also accused of carrying out a deadly bombing in Casablanca, Morocco, in 2003; and Youssef Belhadj, also Moroccan, who was arrested in Brussels in 2005. Among the other defendants are two of the men charged with the actual bombings: Jamal Zougam and Abdelmajid Bouchar, both Moroccan.

    If convicted, Mr. Ahmed, 35, faces prison time that could total nearly 40,000 years, but under Spanish law, he would not serve more than 40 years. Here in Italy, he was given a 10-year sentence, which he is appealing. He was extradited to Spain in mid-November.

    During his nine-month trial in Milan, prosecutors presented evidence portraying Mr. Ahmed as a dedicated warrior, providing a window into the workings and motivations of suspected terrorist cells.

    He constantly moved around Europe, living in Germany, Spain, France and Italy since 1999. Apart from the accusations that Mr. Ahmed has ties to the Madrid bombers, court papers here say that he was also in contact with a group in the Netherlands linked to the killing of the film director Theo van Gogh later in 2004.

    In addition, he was accused of grooming Yahia Ragheh, his co-defendant in the trial here, to become a suicide bomber to be smuggled into Syria. Mr. Ragheh was sentenced to five years in prison.

    In all, his hatred of the West and his willingness to use violence in the name of God against it are a recurring theme in the transcripts.

    “The time has come for our war,” he told Mr. Ragheh in one intercepted conversation. “They have always believed in their nuclear arms and their power, but with the might of God and faith we will win.”

    At another point, he told Mr. Ragheh that he must join Al Qaeda “to make jihad,” according to his interpretation of the Koran. “It is for God,” he said. “There are people who have gone to jail, there are people who have died, all for God.”

    He added that the plotters of the Madrid bombings who died — not the victims — “purified our hearts.”


    Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyC MaNiAc View Post
    This is horrible.

    I must say though, maybe this will knock some sense into European countries.

    This war against Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden is a battle we ALL must fight.
    Oh yes, because Spain, Britain, France, etc... are somehow new to this thing called terrorism that was introduced to the world after 9/11...

    If its anybody that needed the wake up call it was the US, what with its brilliant foreign policies, it nurtured, developed and armed al-Qaeda, facilitated the creation of other terrorist organisations to rebel against anti-US states and funded/aided various terrorist organisations to continue operating against the best interests of its allies.

    I'd personally not fight any wars, but sometimes those wars come to your door.

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    Give it a rest, Nick.

    The guy hasn't been here in almost a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick-taylor View Post
    Oh yes, because Spain, Britain, France, etc... are somehow new to this thing called terrorism that was introduced to the world after 9/11...
    .... I seem to recall Britain had a "slight" problem with the Fenians and later the IRA for the suppression of human rights and freedom in Ireland. The Black & Tans were akin to the Nazi SS in their terrorising of the civilian population.

    Quote Originally Posted by nick-taylor View Post
    I'd personally not fight any wars, but sometimes those wars come to your door.
    You'd have been useful in fighting Nazism during WW2! You enjoy the benefits of a free society but you're not prepared to fight for them when the chips are down - let others do the dirty work so you can pontificate at your leisure!

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    The anniversary of the Madrid tragedy bumps up old posts from our friend JB, making this day doubly sad.

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    I noticed.

    Happened in another thread recently.

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    Yeah -- it happens alot -- he was prolific guy.

    As sad as it still makes me I always enjoy coming across JB's old posts.

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