417 Canal St

**ZippyTheChimp** · July 5th, 2007, 02:26 PM

Looks like a project is going forward, but I can't find any info other than DOB filings.

Sullivan St is fenced in and the signs removed, so it looks like the street was demapped.

**londonlawyer** · July 5th, 2007, 02:46 PM

Isn't that the nice old building on 6th Ave. that Curbed reported about last week?

**Hamilton** · July 5th, 2007, 03:35 PM

Is that grassy lot in front of 417 Canal a park?

**lofter1** · July 6th, 2007, 02:00 AM

The Department of Finance documents on this block talk about the de-mapping of that little stretch of street fronting onto Duarte Square.

I've been digging around but can find no info on what might be going up here.

Calling Mr. Libeskind

(although I hope not)

**ZippyTheChimp** · July 6th, 2007, 06:37 AM

The way I remember it: The demapped street was transferred to Trinity, and they can use the area as part of the zoning lot. Control of the area goes to NYC Parks, and it will become part of the renovated Duarte Sq. Trinity will pay for the construction and maintenance of the new square.

Duarte Sq design

Originally Posted by Hamilton

Is that grassy lot in front of 417 Canal a park?

It will be, if they ever decide to build it. The PA once owned the triangle, and transferred it to the city. It was part of the LMDC funding for lower Manhattan parks. The DOT built sidewalks around the perimeter. It was named Renaissance Park. The design was changed.

The sod was donated by the Tribeca Film Festival. A sign stated that construction would begin "soon." That was about a year ago.

**Derek2k3** · July 7th, 2007, 12:34 AM

It was discussed last week here.

**lofter1** · November 13th, 2007, 07:18 PM

Its little neighbor at 74 Varick has came down and now they're starting to chip away at 417 Canal ...

Here's how that block at Canal & Varick looked about 1 month ago:

And today:

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**lofter1** · November 13th, 2007, 07:21 PM

A certain local who makes regular stops at 417 Canal seems not to have received the relocation notice

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**MidtownGuy** · November 13th, 2007, 07:23 PM

WOW, that photo is just fantastic. Get a load of the donut box over the face

**NewYorkDoc** · November 13th, 2007, 07:26 PM

What is fantastic about being homeless?

**lofter1** · November 13th, 2007, 08:03 PM

I find it really amazing that marketing execs in the USA have somehow managed to make certain that the desire for consumption and acquisitiveness works on all levels of American society.

**NewYorkDoc** · November 13th, 2007, 08:09 PM

In what way here?

**lofter1** · November 13th, 2007, 08:26 PM

All that stuff in the picture are this woman's possessions -- she moves all around the area with a big collection of assorted bags and boxes.

There is another fellow I see on a regular basis with his wagon-train of overflowing shopping carts -- all of which he moves up and down Lafayette Street.

Granted sometimes when one sees certain folks with lots of stuff it appears that the individual is doing 'business" (collecting recyclables for reimbursement, etc.).

However in other cases (such as appears here) it seems that it's more about surrounding oneself with things. Acquiring stuff as insulation. A protective coating of collected goods.

A metaphor of sorts.

(the rest of us keep it in our dresser or the closet -- or a rental box in a storage facility

)

**NewYorkDoc** · November 13th, 2007, 08:34 PM

That's an interesting observation Lofter. I suppose sometimes why these individuals want to be surrounded by possessions is because it's all they have.