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    Madison Square Garden closed after possible hazardous debris falls

    By Jesse Solomon, CNN
    November 2, 2010 6:42 p.m. EDT





    New York (CNN) -- An asbestos scare at New York's Madison Square Garden has forced the postponement of Tuesday night's Knicks basketball game, according to a statement released by the team.

    "We will be working with the city and independent experts, ATC Associates and GCI Environmental Advisory to evaluate and determine the most appropriate course of action," the statement said. "As the safety of our customers and employees are our top priority, we will not reopen the Garden until we are absolutely assured the arena is safe."
    The scare was triggered sometime after Monday night's Rangers hockey game when, during overnight maintenance, "which included cleaning asbestos-related materials in the attic above the ceiling, some debris fell into the arena," the statement said.
    The Knicks were scheduled to play the Orlando Magic. Ticket holders have been told to keep their tickets and check the team's website for information about future events.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/02/new...rena.asbestos/

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    Thumbs up Prudential Center is simply better.

    Knicks contact Prudential Center about hosting game against Wizards if Madison Square Garden is unavailable

    Published: Tuesday, November 02, 2010, 6:49 PM Updated: Tuesday, November 02, 2010, 6:49 PM
    Dave D'Alessandro/Star-Ledger Columnist


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    The Knicks have explored the possibility of playing their Friday night game against the Wizards at the Prudential Center if Madison Square Garden isn't ready to host the event.

    The Knicks have contacted the Prudential Center to discuss the feasibiilty of moving their game Friday night against Washington to the Newark facility, but the Madison Square Garden asbestos cleanup is expected to be completed by Wednesday.

    An NBA official, who requested anonymity because he is not at liberty to speak for the Knicks or Devils, who manage the arena, said that MSG operations firmly believes it will resolve the Garden problem "very soon," and that last night’s Knicks-Orlando cancelled game will be the only event that requires rescheduling.

    “They believe they can get this cleaned up by Wednesday, and they won’t have to move any games – they'll just have to reschedule the Magic game,” the official said. “But if it gets on past Thursday, the Knicks said they’ll get back to the people in Newark.”

    Playing in Newark instead of East Rutherford or Nassau is more practical and appealing to the Knicks for one reason: Their fans can get to The Rock via train from midtown Manhattan in roughly 20 minutes.

    It is highly unlikely that the Devils would be willing to reschedule their game against the Rangers Friday to accommodate the Knicks and Wizards, according to another official who requested anonymity. A day-night arrangement, however, might under discussion.

    Prudential Center spokesman Bob Sommer would not confirm that the Knicks are soliciting help in Newark. But Sommer made it clear that the building is available to another MSG refugee, as The Rock is already hosting the WNBA’s Liberty next summer while the Garden continues its two-year renovation.

    “Because we have a great working relationship with them, with what we’ve done with the Liberty, we’ve got tons of respect for them,” Sommer said of the Knicks. “And we will help them in whatever way we can.”

    http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2...tial_cent.html
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    The Dolans are real schlongs. This POS should be razed.

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    They (the Dolans) have literally driven the Knicks franchise into the ground. The Knicks is a laughingstock and so is MSG.

    They actually make the city of New York look bad.

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    Refurbished Madison Square Garden to include spectator bridges
    By Kelly Dwyer

    Madison Square Garden is undergoing an upgrade that will eventually feature spectator bridges, suspended above the courts during both hockey and basketball games. Now while this might not seem like a lot to you right now, consider the possibilities.
    It's 2013. You're 3 1/2 years removed from finishing your advertising degree at Marquette, and you're now working for, say, a chic Manhattan ad agency. Finished with a day's work designing flying bus advertisements (because it's 2013) for flying Segways (because it's 2013), you head to your hover-laptop to check your fantasy league starters for that night.
    Gotta move Andrew Bogut(notes) into the lineup because it's 2013, and he's finally healthy. And then you notice, whoa, "@ NYK" is right next to Andrew's name. Your beloved Bucks are in town to play the New York Knicks in a game that could decide the fate of that year's Eastern Conference (because it's 2013).
    You can't miss this, but there's no way you can get back to hover-Brooklyn (because it's 2013) in time to see the game at your apartment. You call in for tickets, but there's nothing there. Nothing but standing room only to see the class of the East.
    Just SRO? Damn. Unless, of course, the Knicks at this point had done something to alleviate the frustration of trying to watch a game while standing in back of the very back row.
    Something like ... spectator bridges over the court?
    Behold:

    In describing the upgrade, Madison Square Garden President Hank Ratner has the line of the year:
    "These are going to take it up a notch -- because you're on bridges."
    Because you're on bridges, indeed.

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    That's just plain dumb. Just goes to show Dolan's level of intelligence. I'm surprised he hasn't contracted Gene Kaufman for the job.

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    Ten bucks to the first drunk guy to chuck a load over the side and onto the court -- or even better, splatted across the ice.

    Unless they glass that thing in (which code will probably require, if the lawyers don't) all sorts of crap will be falling onto the play area during games.

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    the people in the 400's are going to have to stare at the morons on the catwalk the whole game. Extremely unappealing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jssocal View Post
    refurbished madison square garden to include spectator bridges
    by kelly dwyer

    madison square garden is undergoing an upgrade that will eventually feature spectator bridges, suspended above the courts during both hockey and basketball games. Now while this might not seem like a lot to you right now, consider the possibilities.
    It's 2013. You're 3 1/2 years removed from finishing your advertising degree at marquette, and you're now working for, say, a chic manhattan ad agency. Finished with a day's work designing flying bus advertisements (because it's 2013) for flying segways (because it's 2013), you head to your hover-laptop to check your fantasy league starters for that night.
    Gotta move andrew bogut(notes) into the lineup because it's 2013, and he's finally healthy. And then you notice, whoa, "@ nyk" is right next to andrew's name. Your beloved bucks are in town to play the new york knicks in a game that could decide the fate of that year's eastern conference (because it's 2013).
    You can't miss this, but there's no way you can get back to hover-brooklyn (because it's 2013) in time to see the game at your apartment. You call in for tickets, but there's nothing there. Nothing but standing room only to see the class of the east.
    Just sro? Damn. Unless, of course, the knicks at this point had done something to alleviate the frustration of trying to watch a game while standing in back of the very back row.
    Something like ... Spectator bridges over the court?
    Behold:

    in describing the upgrade, madison square garden president hank ratner has the line of the year:
    "these are going to take it up a notch -- because you're on bridges."
    because you're on bridges, indeed.
    epic fail!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    ... glass that thing in (which code will probably require ...)
    Imagine the nose grease.

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    They say bridge(s) and the one they show in the rendering doesn't look like it's in the middle of the arena. So two of them actually suspended over the seating?

    That means you'll be able to watch the game from one railing; the other is for checking out babes in the stands.

    Will there be a center hanging info board? People in the upper stands will use the sides of the bridges, but what about those at the goal ends?

    Nosebleed seats will now be letterbox. Just like TV! Might as well stay home.

    BTW, this makes the list of Dumbest Ideas of 2010.

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    Speaking of codes and safety issues, I have my doubts about the physics of hanging a new structure off cables that are already supporting the roof and scoreboard. Or at least the practicality of doing it.

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    This "idea" will be quietly dropped, n'est-ce pas?

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    It'll drop alright, if they're going with those flimsy-looking cables.

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    I hope they do it - and a hundred other stupid stadium wreaking things... then, maybe it will become more despised and hated
    by the fans, discouraging anyone from attending, and encouraging a quicker demise for this ungainly POS.

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