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    Last time I was on CPW, the building was essentially gone above street level.

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    SLCE is doing the bones, Stern is the design architect. SLCE does a lot of "bone". Bloomberg Building, and the relatively new Philip Johnson condos on the UES for example. They are one of only a few firms that dont mind taking a back seat to a "big name" architect getting all the glory.

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    and I believe Brown Harris is marketing the site...

    Def not Sunshine or Corcoran - who recently merged, although they have both been owned by the same parent company for some time.

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    The development at 15 Central Park West will consist of 19 and 35 storey buildings.

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    Brown Harris? That's first for a new development!!!!!
    Corcoran and Sunshine merged? that's first i heard about that one!
    it should be interesting... how fast it goes!

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    turns out that Zeckendorf (through a subsidiary) is going to be running the marketing themselves with BHS consulting...

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    74 Years Later, a Room With a View

    By JOHN FREEMAN GILL

    Published: July 24, 2005

    New Yorkers are used to having their cherished light and views blotted out by the arrival of new high-rises. And so Shirley Kennedy, an Upper West Sider, was delighted this spring when her windows suddenly filled with brand-new light and she found herself looking out at a Manhattan vista that had never before existed.

    From the moment the twin-towered Art Deco Century Apartments were completed on Central Park West at 62nd Street in 1931, scores of view-starved south-facing residents on its lower floors had to content themselves with staring across the street at the flank of the 18-story Mayflower Hotel, which was built in 1925. All that has changed in recent months as the floor-by-floor demolition of the Mayflower, which is now complete, progressed.

    "It's been a gradual unveiling of the park," said Ms. Kennedy, who lives on the ninth floor of the Century. "A whole world of Central Park South, of trees and Central Park, everything has opened up through my windows now. I can see down to the Plaza and the Sherry-Netherland."

    But Roberta Brandes Gratz, a writer who has lived in the Century for 32 years, was less moved.

    "It's clearly a novelty, but it's very uninspired," she said of her newly revealed view of the bronze-mirrored Trump International Hotel and Tower and the soaring Time Warner Center. "The most interesting thing in the view is 2 Columbus Circle and Central Park South."

    Unlike Ms. Gratz, some Century residents with apartments closer to Broadway have been granted a sudden vantage on the boisterously angular Hearst Tower, a building by the British architect Norman Foster that is rising on Eighth Avenue near 57th Street.

    Others are just enjoying the moment, aware that the Mayflower site, combined with the adjoining lot along Broadway, will probably get a major new high-rise soon. A spokesman for Zeckendorf Development, which controls the site, declined to provide details.

    "It's like everything else in New York," Michael Richman, a Century resident, said of his new sixth-floor view of Central Park West and Central Park South. "It's sort of a peekaboo thing; one day it's there, the next it's gone."

    In years past, Mr. Richman and his family had to crane their necks to spot a sliver of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade proceeding down Central Park West. To gain a preview of which giant balloon would arrive next, the family resorted to watching the reflections of the parade in the Mayflower's windows.

    But this year, Mr. Richman said, his 11-year-old child has loftier ambitions. "My daughter said, 'Hey, if it's down long enough, why don't we throw a party on Thanksgiving so we can see the parade?' "

    Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company

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    The New York Times
    Tall and Shorter Towers Set for Mayflower Site
    By DAVID W. DUNLAP
    Published: August 4, 2005

    Perhaps the biggest mystery in Manhattan real estate - what are they ever going to build on the Mayflower Hotel block? - is being answered with a pair of limestone-clad apartment buildings, 19 and 35 stories, for buyers with at least $2 million to spend on a one-bedroom. Or $45 million for something bigger, with a terrace.

    Having spent years to acquire the full block between Central Park West and Broadway, 61st to 62nd Streets, and having kept the $1 billion project secret for months even as demolition and construction crews readied the site, Zeckendorf Development is now showing its plans to community leaders on the Upper West Side.

    As designed by Robert A. M. Stern Architects and S.L.C.E. Architects, the 886,000-square-foot complex - called 15 Central Park West - is to have a 231-foot-high apartment house on the park side and a 550-foot midblock tower, separated by a private courtyard. Stores will line a five-story base along Broadway.

    There are to be 201 condominium apartments. The building is to open in 2007.

    Asked if they feared that the real estate bubble would burst by then, the co-chairmen of Zeckendorf Development, Arthur W. and William Lie Zeckendorf, sounded confident. "The market remains - knock on wood - very strong," Arthur Zeckendorf said, "and this caters to the upper end, which is a market with a limited amount of inventory."

    Although developers customarily use hyperbole when speaking about their projects, William Zeckendorf may be accurate in saying that the Mayflower site "is likely to be the last full block front on Central Park West or Fifth Avenue, south of 96th Street, that will be available in our lifetimes." The hotel on Central Park West was recently demolished. The rest of the 1.3-acre parcel has been vacant for 18 years.

    To put the new tower in context, it is roughly 35 feet shorter than the Trump International Hotel and Tower to the south and 210 feet taller than the Century Apartments to the north. Mr. Stern said he was taking design cues more from older West Side buildings than from modern, glass-skinned skyscrapers.

    "You'll see plantings, and you'll see people from time to time," Mr. Stern said, "as opposed to many buildings where you have no sense of the human life within."

    This would be achieved, he said, through the use of large windows, small balconies, rooftop loggias and set-back terraces like the one stretching 282 feet around the 6,600-square-foot penthouse in the Central Park West structure, which will be offered for $45 million. In the tower will be a few 1,000-square-foot units for $2 million.

    About 87,000 pieces of Indiana limestone will clad the structures, William Zeckendorf said, from Oolitic, Ind., the quarry that supplied the Empire State Building.

    Between the buildings will be a 70-by-200-foot courtyard and driveway with an oval pavilion at its center and a glass-bottom reflecting pool at the north end. This will be directly over the indoor pool of the residents' health club.

    Unless Zeckendorf Development applies for a permit for a parking garage, the project will be constructed "as of right" under existing zoning rules, William Zeckendorf said, meaning that it would not be subject to discretionary review.

    Nevertheless, the Zeckendorfs and Mr. Stern this week began making presentations to neighbors and officials, including City Councilwoman Gale A. Brewer.

    "Design-wise it seems very appropriate for Central Park West and Broadway," Ms. Brewer said. She added, however, that it was too bad the courtyard would be private, even though it follows the example of West Side landmarks like the Apthorp and the Belnord.

    "You just wish," she said, "that people could enjoy it for some period of the year."



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    I like the sound of this building. It will have large windows and it will be made from real limestone, today a lot of buildings are clad with faux treatments and all too many with concrete or plaster. I’m also surprised to read that a 35 storey residential building will be 550 feet.

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    I noticed you attached a rendering, its not that great.

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    According to the Real Deal the taller building will be 43 storeys not 35.

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    You can´t see detail in the rendering but Robert Stern is at least an intelligent designer.... I´m expecting this to be beautiful (fingers crossed).

    Limestone.... clad in real limestone, that´s almost enough for me.

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    Looks pretty good to me. Takes its place with the other twin tower buildings on Central Park West, but with a bit of a twist: the "towers" are joined, as at the Waldorf.




    Faint echoes of the Beresford, too. Really faint...

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    I'm very disappointed in the "tower" portion.

    It really appears to be slab -- rather than joined towers.

    Hopefully the final version will be refined and it will become the best building it can be.

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    The Waldorf Towers, while joined, still give a sense of two separate towers:



    The rendering for the Mayflower doesn't give much sense, in the Broadway portion, of two towers (ala the Waldorf).

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