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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffpark
    but Cesar Pelli and Associates. is a much better architect

    then -robert m stern- from the blumber tower and much more and what has stern don in condos ,
    and finaly the pictro dos not look so good why is it nit more modern they could have usd costas or ismael levya etc

    or some top noch architect??? its a loss of a goldmine
    proof reading got you stumped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio
    That building is clearly visible in the old Circle photos that Ablarc posted on this thread...
    Sorry, off-topic, but: way back, I used to live at 71st and Broadway. I must have walked past this building a hundred times without taking note of it. Now it seems incongruous and white and like a refugee from another place, and I don't know what to think of it. Does it fit londonlawyer's definition of crap, or is it really quite marvelous?

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    Crappy? Perhaps to some minds. Small, eccentic, inefficient, rickety.... changed around and painted over. There was a famous Russian dance teacher who had a studio there, I can´t remember her name, but I would visit to meet up with a friend of mine who studied there.

    An aside: A few weeks ago the NYTimes paid homage to this painter and his paintings of crap... thought you all might want to see some examples :

    http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0013zn.jpg

    http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0020vc.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio
    Crappy? ... the NYTimes paid homage to this painter and his paintings of crap...
    Crap? You're kidding, eh?

    These paintings by Frederick Brosen really capture an essential part of NY.

    Take the image of the Gansevoort St. in the meatpacking district. This is how it was just a couple of years ago -- before the stores with $3,000.00 shoes and restaurants with $12.00 drinks took over (if you want to talk about crap).

    Call me nostalgic, but be thankful that Brosen captured this time and place.

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    Exactly.

    It´s in those crap buildings that you find poetry... and a reason to paint. They are, as you say, "an essential part of NY" but too many are unable to understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc
    Sorry, off-topic, but: way back, I used to live at 71st and Broadway. I must have walked past this building a hundred times without taking note of it. Now it seems incongruous and white and like a refugee from another place, and I don't know what to think of it. Does it fit londonlawyer's definition of crap, or is it really quite marvelous?
    I think that it's a decent little building. The Indian restaurant is disappointing though. The quality of their chicken is crap!

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    Ups! I guess I forgot to post their website: Silly me!... It just has the same renderings nothing new yet.

    http://www.15cpw.com/

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    Emporis says that the tower portion will be 550 feet high.

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    Wow.

    http://www.triplemint.com/triplemint...10/15_cpw.html


    ( If they tore down 240 CPW and replaced it with something like this... I wouldn´t complain.)

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    No no no ... wrong, bad, boring, overwhelming, graceless -- but wrapped in limestone --- oooooohh.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    The "tower" is just a huge SLAB:


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    btw: This thread seems to have lost a whole slew of posts between 9/08 and 10/11.

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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?

    I wouldn´t mind falling asleep there.

    Do scroll down for the close-ups (new renderings).

    http://www.triplemint.com/triplemint...10/15_cpw.html

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    Ho hum ... the close-ups they show are the nice treatment at the edges where the slab is broken up.

    The slab itself is about 200' x 200' of what seems like a fairly flat mass:
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    You´ve pasted 15 floors that show a uniform part of the building. Pretty much like most of the great 1920/30 apartment houses on 5th, Park, Riverside etc. Between the first 3 floors and the top floors.... there´s nothing much going on.

    So I don´t get what your point is.

    At least we do get limestone facing and (I hope) nice window casings.... and no shabby exposed floor plates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    No no no ... wrong, bad, boring, overwhelming, graceless
    Funny you should mention grace. If you ask Stern who he'd like to have been born as if not himself, he'll answer: "Fred Astaire."

    Not so sure this one's either graceless or boring; it has a little Greek temple on top, plus a few other implied buildings --a whole miniature village, in fact, like the one atop Yale's Stirling Library.

    Boring, if you want to be bored, but about as interesting as most of its CPW neighbors, and it fits in with them very well indeed; after all, it's based on the same techniques. Stern's got New York in his veins, especially the Central Park West flavor.

    Overwhelming? Naah.

    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    The "tower" is just a huge SLAB
    Yeah, but with stuff on top to make it less slabby.
    Last edited by ablarc; October 13th, 2005 at 07:49 AM.

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