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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    But Signature’s most notorious suspect is at 160 Bleecker St. Complaints were made to the Buildings Department as early as 2004 that rooms there were being rented on a nightly basis. The property now has 13 active complaints on file for everything from illegal conversion of apartments into hotel units to maid carts blocking exits.
    Big deal, they ought to let this one go. This building has pretty much always been a hotel-type thang ever since it was built in 1896 as a hostel for impecunious gentlemen: 1500 tiny bedrooms, kind of a glorified flophouse. The building itself has great and handsome presence --as well it should, having been designed by the illustrious Ernest Flagg, who also created both Singer Buildings. This area needs a hotel --the Village is short of transient rooms-- and an affordable one is particularly welcome. I would stay there.

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    Javits Hotel is 908 feet

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    Quote Originally Posted by kliq6 View Post
    Javits Hotel is 908 feet
    Wow! Has a design been selected? If so, how does it look? I thought that this would be a 700 foot box.

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    ^ No, it'll just be a 908 ft. box.

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    far from it, has a nice spire on top. However Spitzer today talked about killing the whole Javits plan and starting over, so stay tuned

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    Quote Originally Posted by kliq6 View Post
    far from it, has a nice spire on top. However Spitzer today talked about killing the whole Javits plan and starting over, so stay tuned
    Is it a crown or simply a spire like NYT of B of A have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kliq6 View Post
    far from it, has a nice spire on top. However Spitzer today talked about killing the whole Javits plan and starting over, so stay tuned
    LOL. Wouldn't you know it?

    If it's a nice design, it gets cancelled. I'd bet the next iteration will be ugly.

    Isn't that pretty much the story of this city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    Is it a crown or simply a spire like NYT of B of A have?
    NYT

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    Is the roof flat and the spire is simply plopped upon it (a la NYT) or does the roof have some sort of crown, like Trump Wall Street or the Chrysler, and the spire is perched upon it?

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    So if you've seen the design, you must know what developer's bid was selected. Can you tell us?

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    Monion was selected but with Spitzer review, scheduled for Monday morning, this may never happen as is

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    Quote Originally Posted by kliq6 View Post
    Monion was selected but with Spitzer review, scheduled for Monday morning, this may never happen as is
    Is the roof flat and the spire is simply plopped upon it (a la NYT) or does the roof have some sort of crown, like Trump Wall Street or the Chrysler, and the spire is perched upon it?

    By the way, although I think that the current convention center design is stupid since a vertical expansion appears to be useless, why should that impact the construction of the hotel?

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    ^ Because there's a thing called karma or whatever you call it, at work here in this city.

    If the design was hideous, nothing would have happened to keep it from getting erected but because like kliq said, it looked good so you know something was going to come along to derail it.

    I truly believe something unexplainable is working against this city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kliq6 View Post
    far from it, has a nice spire on top. However Spitzer today talked about killing the whole Javits plan and starting over, so stay tuned
    If it's only 800 feet or so plus a 100 foot spire, I don't care if it's cancelled if it means redesigning the idiotic proposal to which Pataki agreed. It seems that Elliot may kill it.
    Spitzer weighing new, bigger Javits design

    By: Anne Michaud
    Published: March 9, 2007 - 1:41 pm


    Gov. Eliot Spitzer is considering scrapping a $1.8 billion expansion of New York City’s convention center in favor of a bigger design.

    The governor will meet Monday with Sen. Charles Schumer, a critic who has called the current expansion plan too small, as well as Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Deputy Mayor Daniel Doctoroff, who hammered out the plan with the Pataki Administration.

    The expansion would add 1.1 million square feet of exhibit space to the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center, from the current 760,000 square feet. Meeting space and a hotel are also proposed.

    However, officials at the Empire State Development Corp. say that a second, unfunded phase of the expansion is needed to add 1.1 million square feet. “The proposed Phase I expansion involves an expenditure of about $1.8 billion for 300,000 square feet. That’s extraordinarily expensive,” Gov. Spitzer’s ESDC chief, Patrick Foye, told legislators at a recent budget hearing. “We are taking a fresh look at it.”

    Phase II of the plan would cost at least $1 billion more and could require closing the convention center a second time. “I think there are major changes in the offing,” says Assemblyman Richard Brodsky, D-Westchester. “The approved plan simply does not create a world-class convention center.’’

    Gov. Spitzer is also talking to convention users and has met with hotel-union President Peter Ward and Joseph Spinnato, president of the Hotel Association of New York City. Mr. Spinnato says the governor asked them not to discuss the issue until a decision is made. Mr. Foye is expected to make a recommendation to the governor by the end of the month.

    Leaders of the city’s convention and tourism businesses have told the governor that while they support a larger center, they do not want to see the expansion effort delayed. The Legislature approved the project over two years ago, after a dozen years of lobbying by city and industry officials.

    Besides the size, objections to the current plan center on the vertical design as well as a corkscrew freight truck garage that would be contained in the north end of the building. Fully constructed, the expansion would add three floors on top of the Javits Center. Most convention centers extend horizontally.

    The garage design would slow down loading, driving up the cost of producing shows, says John O’Connell, an executive of Freeman, which handles most exhibitor services. The Javits Center is already among the most expensive sites in the country.

    Mr. O’Connell and others have been raising objections to the design for months. Such criticisms are receiving a fuller hearing now that the administration in Albany has changed hands. “I’m impressed with the decisiveness and insight the new team has brought to this process,” Mr. Brodsky says.

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    Why not extend Javits all the way down to 30th Street -- incorporate the existing High Line into the design -- put a tower or two above (away from the river, near 11th Avenue) and create open space up top.

    Put a tower on the north end of the existing site.

    Just some ideas ...

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