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    Does BILLY Macklowe have any Retail tenants for the building yet

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    I am very pleased with 310 as it has now become a centerpiece of my view of Midtown.

    I'll post some pics from my view of the building once again tonight or tomorrow to give you all a perspective from the West.

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    Not a bad midrange building. It was raining/sleeting here, snowing on 57th. I got around today as you'll soon see....



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    Base...I like it but no one else seems to.


    Neighborhood presence

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    They seem to have put thought into the base's materials but not its design...usually it's the other way around, or simply a lack of attention to both...

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    The base really sucks. That stretch of 2nd avenue is getting so sterile, it used to be interesting in that area, but they keep tearing down the interesting old buildings and replacing them with unimaginative glass boxes. Ugh, same old story, I'm getting tired of even saying it. The street presence of the Milano is hideous and boring also.

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    A dreary, artless work that lacks imagination. Go back to the drawing board!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NativeForestHiller
    A dreary, artless work that lacks imagination. Go back to the drawing board!
    I beg to differ. I have a direct view of this building and it looks quite lovely on sunny days and in the morning. It's unfortunate that most of the photos we have of it on this forum are taken during cloudy weather.

    Part of my satisfaction with 310's design is that it is lightyears better than that of the Milan's which unfortunately is part of my view as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macreator
    I beg to differ. I have a direct view of this building and it looks quite lovely on sunny days and in the morning. It's unfortunate that most of the photos we have of it on this forum are taken during cloudy weather.

    Part of my satisfaction with 310's design is that it is lightyears better than that of the Milan's which unfortunately is part of my view as well.
    I agree with everything you said. It should be sunny Saturday, and I'll go back and take pics. Even today in the rain/sleet/snow/ice I think it looked good. It's a nice glass tower, interesting color, it's like a sea green, it looks great.

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    I will admit, the colors are nice, I just can't forgive the base and what it did to that block.

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    Not so long ago 2nd and 3rd Avenues were lined with small-scale buildings and interesting little shops. This area was also a breeding-ground for neighborhood bars. What kind of a bar can you put into a sterile space such as the ones we get from these towers?

    Streetscape? Fuhgedaboutit.

    No wonder the Upper East Side is losing its cachet. It's turning into a bedroom community with a decidedly suburban vibe.

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    The UES was never known for, and certainly never developed its cachet because of, those little stores on the low-numbered avenues. It was always about Park, Fifth, and Madison, and those are as dull as any streetscapes you'll ever encounter.

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    How hard can it be to design bases that interact with and enhance the streetscape? It's great to look up and see towers, but it is at least as important to be stimulated at street level. This base looks like a forbidding medical clinic or something.

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    czsz, don't think of this area as UES and lump it with Park, Fifth, Madison. Turtle Bay and these neighborhoods around here have had their own identity, and the crowded bars and small shops, bakeries, etc. was/is part of it.

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    "The UES was never known for, and certainly never developed its cachet because of, those little stores on the low-numbered avenues. It was always about Park, Fifth, and Madison, and those are as dull as any streetscapes you'll ever encounter."

    CZ: Think again. First of all the UES ( on Lex, 3rd and 2nd ) was Manhattans hottest singles scene through the 60´s and 70´s with some really groundbreaking locales. And the phenomena of the "boutique" took off on Lex, 3rd and 2nd.

    Madison ave? It was a great charming neighborhood avenue that served 5th and Park with a wonderful mix of everything from clothing and food to art galleries and antiques... even today with the invasion of the designer boutiques it has to be one of the world´s greatest city streets for a stroll.

    Fifth and Park dull streetscapes? What they lack in street life they make up in breathtaking beauty (and that´s no small thing)... block after block of fine stately buildings...the green or black awnings, the doormen, the trees and hedges, flowers all perfectly maintained. A stroll up 5th to the Gugenheim or to the Metropolitain is a splended walk... and a stunning streetscape.
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    Frankly, I find Park Avenue unimaginably dull. The architecture is uninspired, and not nearly as well manicured/maintained as it ought to be considering the incomes of its inhabitants. Fifth boasts the occasional outburst of Beaux-Arts but other than that is less than inviting save for around the musea. Riverside Drive gives both of them a serious run for their money.

    What I meant by my comment was that what the UES is known for, internationally if not locally, and recently if not decades ago, are these fairly (one has to admit, at least, in comparison to other parts of New York) staid avenues and the side streets between them. The rest might be thought of as part of the neighbourhood, but really doesn't come to mind when one thinks of "the UES" (i.e., I don't think of the strip of fast food restaurants around 3rd and 86th, I think of an unbroken chain of apartment houses on Park).

    And given that reputation, the homogenisation and embourgeoisement of the other avenues is really just emblematic of how those aspects for which the neighbourhood is traditionally perceived are now spreading outward as developers understand them to be an asset.

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