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    The thing about Go Bus is that it's a "first step" toward developing a higher-strata transportation corridor there. What Go Bus does is shave time of the trip between Irvington Terminal and Penn Station. This route suffers from too-frequent stops, double-parked cars, the whole 9. Go Bus is essentially an express service. The next step is to introduce low-floor buses which make it easier to board and alight. There are concepts for this corridor that include center-median bus "stations," striping a bus lane, etc. These types of roadway configuration changes are real challenges because Springfield Avenue is a state highway, and NJDOT is not quick to try new concepts. The eventual goal is light rail on this corridor, but using BRT as a stepping stone.

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    In the Region | New Jersey
    A Rail Line Generates New Life

    Paul Hawthorne for The New York Times
    20.6 MILES AND 23 STATIONS The Hudson-Bergen Light Rail offers passenger service in the Pavonia-Newport area of Jersey City and many other places.

    By ANTOINETTE MARTIN
    Published: June 1, 2008

    HERE is what light rail has delivered to five formerly down-at-heels neighborhoods along the 20.6-mile system in northern New Jersey: more than 10,000 units of new housing, with a total property value surpassing $5 billion.

    The opening and continued expansion of the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail system from 2000 to 2006 have greatly affected all 23 stops on the north-south line running through seven municipalities.

    According to a new study from the Voorhees Transportation Center of Rutgers University, some station sites have already been reshaped by development; others are poised for the same treatment.

    The detailed study focused especially on five of the station areas — those that researchers considered to have the most potential for development. They are Port Imperial in Weehawken; Ninth Street in Hoboken; the area between the Essex Street and Jersey Avenue stations in Jersey City; the Bergenline Avenue neighborhood of Union City and West New York; and the 34th Street area in Bayonne.

    The rail line, originally designed to reduce traffic congestion up and down the Gold Coast, provides connections to the east-west PATH train service into New York City and Newark. It also connects to suburban commuter trains at Hoboken, ferry service at many points, six park-and-ride lots and a passenger elevator connecting West Hoboken with the Jersey City Heights neighborhood.

    Along its route, the system has increased the mass transit ridership, improved the environment, spurred creation of businesses, bolstered property values and tax revenues, opened up employment opportunities and engendered a “fresh, emerging sense of place,” said the transit researchers, who were led by Martin E. Robins and Jan S. Wells.

    “Acres and acres of old abandoned railyards, piers and industrial sites along the route have been transformed into compact residential, office and retail developments in pedestrian and transit-friendly environments,” the two wrote in the report. It was paid for with grants from the federal Environmental Protection Agency and New Jersey Transit.

    Light-rail ridership was found to have risen fastest over the years of operation at three neighborhoods with PATH stations: Newport in Jersey City (the state’s busiest light-rail station); downtown Hoboken; and Exchange Place in Jersey City.

    Mr. Robins suggested in an interview that New Jersey’s light-rail line was becoming a “national showcase” for other regions looking to spur transit-oriented development and “smart growth.” Indeed, the national Council of State Governments recently cited New Jersey, along with California and Massachusetts, as models for other states interested in transit-friendly projects.

    Mr. Robins directed the protracted public-private effort to create the New Jersey system from 1988 through 1994. He noted that those residing in the tens of thousands of new units within walking distance of light-rail stops — and others due to open at Liberty Harbor North and Gull’s Cove in Jersey City — now have an easier alternative than driving for getting to work, going shopping or taking in a show.

    The Jersey City planner Robert Cotter, one of many local officials, planners and light-rail riders who contributed to the study, told the researchers that he was increasingly seeing vacant spaces in parking areas set aside for employees at office buildings in his city.

    Yet Mr. Robins — like Jamie Lefrak, a principal of the Lefrak Group, builder of the Newport residential/office/retail complex — expressed amazement that the light rail was ever built. “We established a route through what were essentially fallow areas,” he said, using a more genteel term for stretches that Mr. Lefrak described as “places most people would not want to go.”

    The light-rail passage in turn attracted developers to rehabilitate those places, while providing new mobility for the large, mostly immigrant, community already established in Union City, which has relatively few car owners.

    Census figures rank Union City, perched atop the Palisades, above Hoboken, as the most densely populated city in the country.

    “When the station was built at Bergenline Avenue,” Mr. Robins said, “it was very meaningful for the people there. Not only was the commute time to jobs in New York and New Jersey chopped by as much as 75 percent, but they suddenly had a convenient way to get to the shopping mall at Newport.”

    He called Union City’s turnaround one of the most heartening results of his work on the creation of the system.

    Mr. Lefrak noted that many people from Union City now come to work at Newport via light rail. It’s clean and quiet, he said, and it costs $1.90 for a ticket.

    The next step, Mr. Lefrak added pointedly, would be for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to build an intermodal connection between the PATH and the light rail at Newport, so transfers could be made within a single building. That has long been part of Port Authority plans, but Mr. Lefrak said he saw the project as having been all but abandoned since the 2001 terrorist attacks, which redirected effort and money toward a rebuilt PATH system feeding into a new World Trade Center complex.

    Mr. Robins also recalled frustration with New York transit officials — in his case, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which resisted calls from New Jersey planners to set up bus lines from western Staten Island to Exchange Place after the PATH station was built, and after a number of companies moved their operations from downtown Manhattan to the New Jersey waterfront in the late 1990s.

    “Staten Islanders traditionally held a lot of those jobs that were moved,” he said, “and their only way to follow the jobs was with a fairly horrendous automobile commute.”

    After the light-rail station opened in Bayonne opposite Staten Island, large numbers of commuters began driving there and catching the train. In 2003, the M.T.A. did institute bus service, and “ridership exploded” at the 34th Street station in Bayonne.

    Now, the east side of Bayonne looks as though it may be the next target of major new development, including 6,700 residential units and lots of cultural space.

    The prospective site is a military ocean terminal that was closed some years ago. Bayonne finds itself well positioned to attract developers, Mr. Robins noted, because the 34th Street station and another at 45th Street provide convenient access to the site.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/re...ref=realestate

    Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

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    Thumbs up Hudson-Bergen Lightrail Great Transit System

    Great find Brianac! It truly is amazing how the Hudson Lightrail has evolved. It truly is an excellent mass-transit system that has won national awards and recognition for it's development and ability to develop smart growth. It is remarkable how in just over 8 years time, our light-rail line has developed into an intergral part of everyday life here in Jersey City and Hudson County.

    A quote from NJTransit's site: "Traveling both on city streets and along separate rights of way, HBLR is the first public transit project in the nation to use the Design, Build, Operate and Maintain (DBOM) construction methodology. In September 2000, NJ TRANSIT was awarded the American Public Transportation Association's prestigious "Innovation Award" for use of the DBOM methodology."

    With it's one mile extension to 8th Street in Bayonne currently u/c, once the extension is complete the system will be 21.6 miles long with 24 stations. Even the MTA has recognized it's importance and added the first New York City Bus to the 34th Street station in Bayonne. Another addition to the 34th Street station will eventually be a PCC "hertiage car" route from 34th St. along the Penninsula At Bayonne Harbor to the Royal Carribean Cruise Terminal that will link the new developments on the penninsula with the rest of Bayonne and Hudson County.

    There are three other extensions that seem likely in the near future, and one very far off:

    First would be the extension to the Meadowlands Sports Complex, which seems very likely. They are currently mid-way through the construction of the rail spur of the Pascack Valley Libe into the heart of the complex that looks to be completed mid 2009. After that NJTransit most likely would like to have the HBLR extend from Tonnelle Ave. in North Bergen through Secaucus, with a stop at Mill Creek Mall and Harmon Meadow Shooping Center developments, across the Hackensack River and west along Paterson Plank Rd. and south along Route 120 into the new Meadowlands S.C. station.

    Secondly, I feel, would be the Secaucus Junction Extension/Journal Square Extension. I say both because I don't know which will be perferred. There is no doubt that Jersey City WANTS this extension along 6th St. coupled with Embankment becoming an elevated park. Where it goes beyond 6th St. is the question. We all have heard about the Secaucus Junction where from 6th St., it would swing right go through the abandoned Bergen Arches, to Secacus Junction. All of this with stops along the way.

    Now what I have seen on JC1TV, is a planning board meeting with a route from 6th St. into Journal Square Transit Center, aka JSQ PATH Station. It would feature the light-rail along 6th St., similar to Essex St, with a rehabiliated Embankment with elevated park. Stops apparently would be at Jersey Ave. and Newark Ave. Now from there it would cross Newark Ave., veer left and go up onto the embankment where the PATH tracks are and go into JSQ. Now this where it gets really interesting, there would be a parking type building beneath the Turnpike just below the PATH tracks where people drving into the city would have direct axcess off the Turnpike to this parking structure where there would be a lightrail stop between Newark Ave and JSQ. So people would just park hear and not drive on a city street. Very ambitious, I will try and keep an ear out on this information. Sure to be more to come!!

    Third would be a half mile extension of the West Side Ave. line across West Side, over Route 440, and to the Liberty Harbor styled new development at the former Honeywell site on 440. There is a light-rail stops in the plans for the new neighborhood and in the renderings. This development looks like it may take 10 years to complete with no construction on it beginning until 2010 maybe after once the site is cleaned up and capped. This extension will happen, just a long way off

    The way way far off extension, would be the light-rail across the Bayonne Bridge to Staten Island. BTW it would be across a new Bayonne Bridge most likely and my yet to be born children might be in highschool before this is ever realized lol.

    Well praise had turned into extensions talk is done. Lol. Thanks for readin.

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    I have never actually ridden the light rail but it looks good.

    I came across it last year when I got off the NY Ferry at Lincoln Harbour, Weehawken, and was walking south to the Hoboken 14th. street ferry pier.

    I think these light rail systems are the thing for the future.

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    JCMAN, don't forget there is an extension from Jersey City to Newark in the vision. I remember reading a while back that it was projected to be completed in a couple of decades from now!

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    ^^^Your right that why I think the Journal Square Extension will be chosen for the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail because it will eventually be extended along the PATH route to Newark Penn Station and hook up with the Newark Light Rail. Same way the NYC Subway started as sperate subway companies and lines in the boroughs and unified to become one subway system; this will happen when the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail and Newark Light Rail are joined into one light-rail tansit system. I can't wait.

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    There is also the proposal (in EIS phase now) to extend passenger service NORTH from the Tonnele Ave station in North Bergen up to Tenafly, either by extending the HBLR system or running DMU trains between Tonnele and Tenafly (would force a transfer at Tonnele for people continuing south toward Hoboken, JC).

    http://northernbranchcorridor.com/

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    Iammius that would basically be a seprate line. NJTransit wants DMU to save on costs of building a new track line with catanaires and substations. DMUs can run on freight tracks and also this new line would go through THE Tunnel into Penn Station. This line will not be a part of the HBLR.

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    Thumbs up 8th St. Station Eminent

    NJ Transit moves toward seizing properties for light rail

    by Ronald Leir Wednesday June 11, 2008, 7:40 PM

    NJ Transit has started condemnation proceedings to take two pieces of privately owned land it needs to extend its Hudson-Bergen Light Rail Transit System south to Eighth Street in Bayonne.

    The agency, which has the power of eminent domain to take land for a public interest, is asking the state Superior Court to clear the way for it to acquire the properties at a fair price.

    One of the properties NJ Transit needs is a 1.16-acre tract now occupied by a Burger King and an STS Tire & Auto Center, on the south side of West Eighth Street off Avenue C. That's where the agency plans to put its new Light Rail station and a small parking lot, according to papers filed with the court.

    Based on an appraisal by BRB Valuation and Consulting Services, of Freehold, NJ Transit has placed the value of the property at $2,550,000 and has deposited that amount in a special account with the court.

    ALD Realty of Bayonne owns the property, and ALD principal David Terry yesterday characterized the agency's proposed purchase price as "substantially below what the property is worth."

    Terry said he has not been served with the condemnation notice, but that negotiations with NJ Transit have broke down.

    NJ Transit is also looking to buy a 3,000-square-foot parcel that is a portion of the former Pagano supermarket site, just west of a Dunkin' Donuts, on the south side of Eighth Street and just west of Avenue C.

    It is proposing to buy it for $154,800 from the owner, Marl Associates, LLC, of New York. Marl principal Asher Lipman couldn't be reached yesterday.

    The matter is scheduled to be heard Aug. 1 by Hudson County Assignment Judge Maurice J. Gallipoli, sitting in Jersey City. The Princeton law firm of Hill Wallack is representing NJ Transit.

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    Thumbs up 8th Street Here We Come

    Clearing way for Light Rail to push south to 8th St.

    Friday, July 25, 2008

    NJ Transit will soon begin work to extend the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail Transit System to Eighth Street from its current southern terminus at 22nd Street in Bayonne.

    The George Harms Construction Co., of Farmingdale, will start the job "in August or September" and it will take approximately two years to complete, said Bayonne spokesman Joseph Ryan.

    The exact start date depends on how soon Harms gets all necessary approvals and permits from various city and state agencies, officials said.

    NJ Transit officials and Harms have begun preliminary discussions with city police, building department staff, the city engineer and the Mayor's Office about construction plans, Ryan said.


    The City Council is expected to consider a traffic plan for the project when it meets on Aug. 13, he said.

    RONALD LEIR

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    In an ideal world, they would extend it to Staten Island, possibly to the Ferry Terminal. That would definitely improve regional mobility. I am sure that there is at least some of the old Staten Island Railroad right of way that could probably be used for it.

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    I can tell you for sure there has been at least a preliminary study to do just that (because I did some of the work on it). Few proposals have so much going for it. The ROW is fine, though I seem to remember an issue with the shoreline in places. The biggest obstacle may be that the Bayonne Bridge is in need of replacement. Also, in a perfect world there would be ample funds for worthy transit projects.

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    First thing's first, the decision on whether to replace or raise the Bayonne bridge needs to be made. The current bridge has room for Light Rail on the outside of the roadway, it was designed to accommodate additional lanes or a trolly type rail.

    If they replace the bridge they would need to make the same accommodations for a Light rail.

    If it ever does cross over into Staten Island two spurs would be preferred, one along the existing North Shore RR ROW to St.George. Another to the a Park n Ride near the Staten Island mall.

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    ^The North Shore option also went west from the Bayonne Bridge for all the people who work at the Howland Hook Marine Terminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYatKNIGHT View Post
    ^The North Shore option also went west from the Bayonne Bridge for all the people who work at the Howland Hook Marine Terminal.
    How many people work at the New York Marine Terminal (as its now called)? I wouldn't think its enough to justify extending a light rail to there from the east. And how many employees would come from that direction? And remember, the new Goethals Bridge (one of my projects) will have space reserved for a future light rail as well.

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