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    I don't know the number offhand, but apparently enough people work there to include in a preliminary analysis where all options are studied. The goal as you know is to provide alternate transit options for as many as possible and since the tracks are already there perhaps it's worth it.

    Nice to know Goethals is providing space for light rail, as it should. One of my former projects, the Newark Light Rail, had a proposal to extend down to Elizabeth and Port Elizabeth, and eventually connect with the proposed Union County Light Rail, which then could connect with the Goethals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYatKNIGHT View Post

    Nice to know Goethals is providing space for light rail, as it should. One of my former projects, the Newark Light Rail, had a proposal to extend down to Elizabeth and Port Elizabeth, and eventually connect with the proposed Union County Light Rail, which then could connect with the Goethals.
    They could consider PATH or NJ Transit also to cross the Goethals to Staten Island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STT757 View Post
    They could consider PATH or NJ Transit also to cross the Goethals to Staten Island.
    My understanding is that light rail is cheaper than commuter trains or subways. It also might be better suited for someplace lower density like Staten Island.

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    Thumbs up House Committee Chairman To Visit

    House transportation chair to get tour of light rail, Hudson County

    by The Jersey Journal
    Tuesday September 30, 2008, 10:57 AM

    The chairman of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure will tour the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail today with federal and local officials as part of a push to highlight the need to spend money on mass transit.

    Rep. Jim Oberstar, D-Minn., will receive briefings from state Trasnportation Commissioner Kris Kolluri, Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Commissioner Tony Coscia and others about not only public transit but also roads, bridges and other infrastructure.

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    Thumbs up Free Shuttle-LRT For North Bergen

    Free shuttle service to Light Rail station for North Bergen residents on way

    by The Jersey Journal Tuesday December 02, 2008, 10:08 AM

    Starting next week, North Bergen will offer its residents free shuttle service to the Light Rail station at 51st Street and Tonnelle Avenue, the township announced in a press release.

    Mayor Nicholas J. Sacco will announce the pilot program at a news conference at the station tomorrow at 11:30 a.m. Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise, NJ Transit officials and Hudson County Transportation Management Association (TMA) representatives arte expected to take part.

    The shuttle service, with two routes and multiple pick-up times, will provide free transportation to commuters who may have difficulties accessing mass transportation, officials said in the press release. The program is scheduled to begin December 8.

    The service consists of two buses with 18 seats each, and will only be available to North Bergen residents and will operate during critical peak hours, from 6 a.m. to 8 a.m. and from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m.

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    JCMAN do you have any more details about this or a link?

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    Stache here is a link to North Bergen's website: http://www.northbergen.org/, there is a shuttle bus schedule.

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    Thanks JCMAN, if you run across a map I would appreciate a heads up. Does this shuttle kind of go towards Meadowlands?

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    Thumbs up 8th Street News

    Hey Stache sorry didn't get back to you sooner, I have not found a map or anything yet.

    Portion of Ave E to be closed for Light Rail extension work

    Tuesday, January 06, 2009
    By RONALD LEIR
    JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

    As it embarks upon phase two of extending the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail from 22nd Street to Eighth Street in Bayonne, NJ Transit announced yesterday that starting tomorrow Avenue E between Linnet Street and Broadway will be closed to vehicular traffic for 4 1/2 months.

    At the same time, a section of Eighth Street between Broadway and Avenue C - which had been closed to traffic - will reopen, restoring several metered parking spaces on the block, officials said.

    General contractor Harms Co. has completed the first stage of the $58.4 million construction project with the installation of columns and foundations supporting steel columns for a viaduct, said NJ Transit spokeswoman Courtney Carroll.

    The upcoming phase will focus on construction of the viaduct that will stretch from West 11th Street to the future station at West Eighth Street.

    "We'll be building four columns, installing underground foundation and utilities, doing some road shifting, overhead concrete work, and steel installation to support the overhead track when it goes in," Carroll said.

    NJ Transit started the job last April and anticipates the new station will be finished sometime next year. "So far, the job is going on schedule and on budget," Carroll said.

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    Thumbs up Money For Light-Rail extensions

    Light Rail extensions called smart $$$ use

    Tuesday, January 06, 2009
    By CHARLES HACK
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    And yes, all politics - and infrastructure projects - are local.

    Hudson County bigwigs said yesterday they want some of the federal stimulus package money the president-elect and Congressional leaders are cobbling together to pay for an extension of the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail system within Jersey City and on into Bergen County.

    At a press conference organized by Sen. Robert Menendez to urge passage of an estimated $775 billion stimulus package, County Executive Tom DeGise, said extending the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail would be a prime candidate for some of those funds.

    DeGise wants the Light Rail extended from North Bergen to the 4.8 million-square-foot Meadowlands Xanadu entertainment and sports complex in East Rutherford.

    The Jersey City Redevelopment Agency is also in negotiations with NJ Transit to extend the Light Rail from the West Side Avenue Station across Route 440 to a redevelopment zone on the Hackensack Riverfront.

    The new station would link the Jersey City waterfront and North Hudson to a planned 100-acre development with 8,100 residential units, 1 million square feet of office space and 600,000 square feet of retail space.


    "We are not talking about throwing money into the wind hoping for a economic miracle," Menendez said at the Duncan Avenue press conference.

    "We are talking about smart investments and the types of local projects and programs that actually fuel our economy and help create the economic conditions necessary for an economic turnaround."

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    Lightbulb Light-Rail or Diesel, That's The Question

    NJ Transit to bring back the Northern Branch

    Tuesday, January 27, 2009
    BY TOM DAVIS
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    NJ Transit plans to spend up to $800 million to bring rail service -- along with 10 train stations and hundreds of parking spaces -- to North Jersey towns historically underserved by commuter trains.

    Whether it's diesel trains that rumble or electric trolley-like cars that whistle through communities from North Bergen to Tenafly will determine the cost, as well as how many commuters can get onboard.

    The goal is to reopen the Northern Branch line, which now handles freight, to pull at least 8,100 commuters off the state's congested roadways each day.

    The 11-mile rail line will have as many as 10 stations — three in Englewood alone — as well as parking spaces for commuters.

    "You had passenger rail service there 40 years ago. Those communities grew up on commuter lines," said Charles Ingoglia, the Northern Branch's project manager.

    Facing a weak economy, officials have hinted at a desire to go with what they believe will be a more cost-effective diesel-powered train — despite strong public support to extend the electrified Hudson-Bergen Light Rail line.

    The plans were outlined in an environmental impact statement recently submitted to the Federal Transit Administration for its review. NJ Transit hopes to make a choice by the end of the year.

    Even with fluctuating gas prices, NJ Transit says the diesel option is cheaper — $620 million versus $800 million for electric — because it would require no overhead electrical work that powers the light rail.

    "Things like that are taken into consideration," Ingoglia said. "The diesel would also not include work that would be an eyesore to the community."

    Transportation advocates say communities along the line also will benefit by allowing residents to take quick local trips to go shopping.

    "There are tons of downtowns there," said Zoe Baldwin, spokeswoman for the Tri-State Transportation Campaign. "You're going to see development go up in value."

    But critics, citing the real possibility that fuel costs will rise again, believe the diesel fuel prices will eventually make the service as costly as the light rail line. They also said the diesel-powered line will cause more pollution and pull fewer people off the roads.

    Diesel critics also note the electric light rail line would draw more revenue because the service could carry three times as many passengers: 2,400 trips for diesel compared with 8,100 a day for electric.

    "It's a no-brainer," said Al Papp, director of the New Jersey Association of Rail Passengers. "You know gasoline prices are going to go up. If you're planning a system for 100 years, I would definitely go with the electric option."

    Others say the large number of stations and parking lots serving fast-moving trains will destroy the region's last bastion of peace and solitude — and bring down local property values.

    Under the plan, parking lots with as many as 550 spaces could be located in communities such as Leonia and Tenafly, whose old-fashioned, well-preserved downtowns can't support the additional parking and traffic, officials say.

    Leonia Councilman Anthony Puzzo said he's worried that a potential 550-space parking lot in the area of Overpeck County Park will eat up what little green space is left in Bergen County.

    "There's also a concern about traffic and the impact of trains coming through the town at rush hour," he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCMAN320 View Post
    "There's also a concern about traffic and the impact of trains coming through the town at rush hour," he said.
    So build a multi-story garage with ground floor retail for homeward-bound commuters' shopping convenience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    So build a multi-story garage with ground floor retail for homeward-bound commuters' shopping convenience.
    Agreed! With a little creativity, multi-story garages can be built without being eyesores and having ground floor retail is good land use.

    I don't fully understand the objections raised against public transportation. I live in Livingston and work in West New York. If there were a light rail line that would take me to Newark or JC, I'd be on in in a heartbeat. There's already a light rail stop right next to my job. It would be so convenient. I also think that connecting the Newark Light Rail to the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail should be taken into serious consideration. As well as connecting the PATH to Newark Airport, but alas, politics stand in the way of progress. What's new!

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    ^^Well the the Port Authority is doing a feasibility study into extending the PATH to NWK Airport. I don't knw if they are still are considering it given that the PANYNJ is spending so much money on the new Hudson River Tunnel into NYPenn. I also agree that the NWK LR and HBLR should be connected but unfortunately I don't see that happening for decades.
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    Thumbs up Jersey City's Jersey Journal Editorial

    NJT must finish what it started

    Friday, January 30, 2009

    NJ Transit plans to go ahead with the Bergen County part of the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail Transit System (HBLRTS) made news again with the submission of an environmental studies report that was submitted to the Federal Transit Administration.

    The twist in the story is that NJ Transit is trying to opt for diesel trains instead of the electric-powered modern trolleys that now run on the Hudson County part of HBLRTS. The main reason for diesels - once the arguments that the chugging trains are supposedly cleaner than their heavy polluting ancestor is brushed aside - is that it is a cheaper line to build.

    It is claimed that a mostly one-track diesel line on most of what was once the Northern Branch would cost $620 million compared to $800 million estimated for an electric rail system.

    On its face, Hudson County would not be involved in what seems to be a Bergen County debate but look a little closer and it affects Hudson. The idea of the light rail was to tie together communities along the line that would be for their economic and environmental benefit. NJ Transit is abandoning that mission.

    Hudson County's economy can only benefit from close transportational ties with its neighbors. Just as Hudson dreams of making light rail connections with Staten Island, it should feel the same way with Bergen County. A seamless light rail connection would add another 10 stations reaching as far north as Englewood and Tenafly, by way of Ridgefield, Palisade Park and Route 4.

    Parts, service and maintenance would be uniform and cheaper for the two-county line. Even more importantly there would be better mobility. A report in The Record, a Bergen County publication, noted that light rail would be able carry three times as many passengers than diesel each day. With President Obama's administration looking to fund public works and transportation projects, local legislators should make the argument that an electric light rail extension would fit the bill.

    This newspaper argues that NJ Transit should just finish the HBLRTS as planned - with electric trains.

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