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    Quote Originally Posted by ASchwarz View Post
    Probably because that area is totally underdeveloped prime land just a few minutes from Manhattan. Sounds like a pretty good investment to me.
    Exactly. Proximity to Manhattan and Hoboken and their sense of class, proximity to the multi-modal transportation center known as Hoboken Terminal (heavy rail, rapid transit, ferry, bus, lightrail all in one location - a very rare combination), proximity to the Holland Tunnel & major highways west. If you go back to the early 1800s, Hoboken was a resort for the wealthy of Manhattan. After it became a popular resort, the wealthy of Manhattan (perhaps most notably John Astor, the wealthiest person in America at his time) built homes in Hoboken (his was at the SW corner of Second & Washington). Today, relatively wealthy people looking for more space and/or better pricing are moving from Manhattan to condos (and rentals) in Hoboken (and Downtown Jersey City).

    Oddly as it is, Hoboken Terminal happens to be closer to Newport and other areas in the Holland Tunnel area of Jersey City than it is to most of Hoboken. Add a direct lightrail connection to the Terminal from Jersey Ave for an alternative to the one-mile-or-less walk and you have a pretty ideal commuting arrangement. That area is the last frontier in Jersey City and one of two remaining virtually undeveloped areas adjacent to the only rapid-transit system connecting NJ to NYC (the PATH); it is virtually a clean slate for well thought out, aesthetic master-planned development.
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    Housing Developers Among Biggest Backers of Light Rail Expansion
    By Joe Hernandez • Nov 26th, 2012 • Category: Featured, News



    Editor’s Note: This story was originally published by our media partner NJ Spotlight.

    When a light rail line is routed through a neglected neighborhood, housing developers see an opportunity waiting to happen.

    That has been the case for Hudson County since the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail first opened in northern New Jersey in 2000. Traffic on the line has grown exponentially, along with new housing, as the HBLR has expanded throughout the towns that border the Hudson River.

    Indeed, municipal officials say the line has become so important to efforts to revitalize the area that some housing developers are considering investing in the light railway’s expansion.

    “The Hudson-Bergen Light Rail is an American success story of how transportation innovation can turn abandoned properties into thriving communities,” says Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), a vocal champion of the HBLR.

    Today the light rail network shuttles upward of 42,000 riders each day through 24 stations across Bayonne, Jersey City, Hoboken, Weehawken, Union City, and North Bergen.

    “But there’s more growth to be had,” says Jay DiDomenico, director of the Hudson Transportation Management Association. “They designed the HBLR well beyond what they thought the capacity would be, and we’ve blown way past that.” The HBLR can no longer accommodate its rapid rate of growth, which has led to passenger overcrowding and train and automobile traffic.

    In an effort to increase capacity on the overpopulated light rail line, the Federal Transportation Administration recently gave New Jersey Transit a $400,000 grant to study three possible improvements.

    One aspect of the study will be to determine the cost of those improvements. The original HBLR was paid for through a combination of state and federal funding, and the most recent grant came courtesy of the FTA.

    To date, the HBLR has cost $2.2 billion. And while NJ Transit hasn’t released any estimates on the potential cost of improvements, building a light rail infrastructure can easily reach well into the tens of millions.

    But federal and state budgetary belt-tightening has made the outlook gloomy for costly transit system improvements funded by taxpayer dollars.


    Private Contributions

    That’s where the housing developers come in. Anticipating that increased capacity on the HBLR will lead to a rush of new residents and consumers, these companies are reportedly considering pumping some of their own money into the project.

    “Actually we’re talking to the [housing] developers,” says Rosemary McFadden, chief of staff to Jersey City mayor Jeremiah Healy. Because of the success of other urban development projects near HBLR lines, “some of [the housing developers] are interested in putting in their own money.”

    The largest of the three potential improvements — building a new light rail station at Jersey Avenue and 18th Street in Jersey City — would have the greatest impact on housing development. Just across the Hoboken border, this intersection is home to a new 20-story condominium with more than 10,000 square feet of available retail space.

    Light rail tracks already run through the neighborhood, which is seeing increased attention from developers and commercial businesses.

    The second improvement would fix a “choke point” in Hoboken Terminal, where a convergence of tracks allows only a certain number of light rail cars through at a time. The study will explore the possibility of adding another track to relieve congestion.

    Hoboken Terminal currently services the HBLR, nearly 10 rail lines, the PATH, several bus lines, and NY Waterway ferries.

    The third improvement would ease traffic congestion on Paterson Plank Road between Hoboken and Palisade Avenue, where the HBLR runs along the street. The study will look for ways to accommodate the high volume of light rail cars while cutting down on vehicular traffic.

    The HBLR has undergone expansions and refurbishments in the past, most recently the Danforth Interlocking in Bayonne, where additional tracks divert certain cars to service the “core” of the system, according to NJ Transit.

    There are also plans to extend the HBLR into Tenafly or Englewood via the Northern Branch rail line, which has been cut off from passenger rail service for over 50 years. And while there are no current plans to expand across the Hudson into New York just yet, a new bus route connecting Staten Islanders to the HBLR could signal future interstate growth.

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    http://www.jerseycityindependent.com...ail-expansion/

    NJ Transit expands seating on evening Hudson-Bergen Light Rail trips

    By Ron Zeitlinger/The Jersey Journal
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    NJ Transit Deputy General Manager of Light Rail Operations John Squitieri walks through a prototype of an expanded light rail vehicle on the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail that offers 50 percent more seating capacity than a standard one, on Wednesday, July 3, 2013, at the Hoboken Terminal.

    NJ Transit has doubled seating capacity for post-rush hour evening trips on the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail line, officials announced this morning.

    Starting tonight, 12 trains that operate from 7:30 p.m. to 10 p.m. will use a double-car, instead of a single car, officials said, noting the move is in response to customer feedback as part of NJ TRANSIT’s Scorecard initiative.

    The double-cars are already in use for the rush-hour ridership, NJ Transit spokesman John Durso said.

    “We’ve heard from Hudson-Bergen Light Rail customers that additional capacity on weekday evening trains is a top priority, and we want them to know that we are taking action to address their needs,” said NJ Transit Executive Director James Weinstein said in a statement. “By converting several single-car trains to doubles during the evening, we can keep pace with the line’s growing ridership while improving the overall customer experience on our system.”

    Trips that will now operate with two-car trains instead of one are as follows:

    Bayonne-Hoboken Service
    • From Bayonne:
    -- 8:09 p.m. departure
    -- 8:39 p.m. departure
    -- 9:09 p.m. departure


    *From Hoboken:
    -- 9:05 p.m. departure
    -- 9:35 p.m. departure
    --10:05 p.m. departure

    West Side Avenue-Tonnelle Avenue Service
    • From West Side Avenue:
    -- 7:26 p.m. departure
    -- 7:56 p.m. departure
    -- 8:26 p.m. departure


    • From Tonnelle Avenue:
    -- 8:10 p.m. departure
    -- 8:40 p.m. departure
    -- 9:10 p.m. departure

    NJ Transit officials say that in the past seven years, passenger trips have doubled to more than 45,000 per day on the Hudson-Bergen light rail system. In June, July and August of this year, passenger trips averaged nearly 48,000 per day.

    http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...l#incart_river
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    So what, if anything, is happening with the extension to Route 440? Is it basically stalled until Christie is out of office, like all major non-auto transportation initiatives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton View Post
    So what, if anything, is happening with the extension to Route 440? Is it basically stalled until Christie is out of office, like all major non-auto transportation initiatives?
    Can't move forward till the Bayfront site is cleaned and that won't start till 2017...it will take another 5-10 years to fully clean up. So for now the only real expansion is to Englewood and maybe to Paterson via Hackensack. You also have 4 infill stations being proposed , Canal Crossing , Liberty Harbor West , Grove and 18th Street & North Hoboken. Canal Crossing and Liberty Harbor West are stuck in similar situations as Bayfront.

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    Whatever happened to the Bergen Arches extension? and the extension to Secaucus & the Meadowlands? That would be brilliant (right now you have to go either to Hoboken or Newark if you live in Jersey City to get to a station that connects with Secaucus.

    ...now that I think of it, I really haven't heard much of anything about the Sixth Street Embankment in a long time (although that's really a topic for the JC Rising thread).

    Also - Nexis: where is the Liberty Harbor West station being proposed for? I've heard of the other 3 but not that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey View Post
    Can't move forward till the Bayfront site is cleaned and that won't start till 2017...it will take another 5-10 years to fully clean up. So for now the only real expansion is to Englewood and maybe to Paterson via Hackensack. You also have 4 infill stations being proposed , Canal Crossing , Liberty Harbor West , Grove and 18th Street & North Hoboken. Canal Crossing and Liberty Harbor West are stuck in similar situations as Bayfront.

    Your definition of "real" here is a bit off. The Christie administration hasn't dedicated any funds toward construction of the extension to Englewood. Similarly, the Passaic-Bergen Light Rail (Hackensack to Paterson) plan had identified funding and was ready to begin construction in 2009 and was ready to begin construction before Christie came along, but has mysteriously disappeared off the face of the planet in the past three years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton View Post
    Your definition of "real" here is a bit off. The Christie administration hasn't dedicated any funds toward construction of the extension to Englewood. Similarly, the Passaic-Bergen Light Rail (Hackensack to Paterson) plan had identified funding and was ready to begin construction in 2009 and was ready to begin construction before Christie came along, but has mysteriously disappeared off the face of the planet in the past three years.
    Well that would be the first project to go once he leaves , the 440 project is not going forward till the cleanup is done. The Bergen-Passaic Project was placed on hold due to poor planning and a host of other things like lack of community input and no place for a yard... Transit could actually build the 440 extension and the Bergen-Passaic Project , they have the money. There budget is 1.4 billion , a few years ago they purchased 540 million in new trains....and last year if i'm not mistaken they purchased 400 Million in new buses. So they do make big purchases which shows they have the money... The Bergen - Passaic Project , at least the old version was 156 Million. The New Version being pushed by local towns and Rail advocates goes all the way down to Hoboken , that wouldn't require all that much since they payed for the ROW so once they get to the CSX line they can build next to it all the way to North Bergen and then you use the HBLR line to Hoboken. So another 300-400 Million , a few bridges need to be built...and a yard. Recently Transit threw hot water on a dead project , the West Shore Line , so that gives me hope for the Passaic-Bergen LRT or the Newark LRT expansion , I think they realize buses can only handle so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbal View Post
    Whatever happened to the Bergen Arches extension? and the extension to Secaucus & the Meadowlands? That would be brilliant (right now you have to go either to Hoboken or Newark if you live in Jersey City to get to a station that connects with Secaucus.

    ...now that I think of it, I really haven't heard much of anything about the Sixth Street Embankment in a long time (although that's really a topic for the JC Rising thread).

    Also - Nexis: where is the Liberty Harbor West station being proposed for? I've heard of the other 3 but not that one.
    That expansion is dead and rather silly if you think about it , what purpose would it serve. Journal SQ is the only real neighborhood it would serve , you could make the case to turn Secaucus into a boomtown but thats not going to happen. The Embankment will be a Park and not a transitway , but I don't know if thats official. As for the Liberty Harbor West station , its popped up in most of the development and planning maps , the latest being the Jersey Ave Extension. http://jerseycitynj.gov/uploadedFile...l%20Design.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton View Post
    So what, if anything, is happening with the extension to Route 440? Is it basically stalled until Christie is out of office, like all major non-auto transportation initiatives?
    This one's a biggie.

    http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/130919963

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    Unlike the PATH nay-sayers, I think this would have been GREAT for me when I was living in Hoboken. A 1 transfer ride to the airport for only (now) $1.70??!? That would have beaten the hell out of the $25 cab ride.

    Although I DO agree with the position that there are more pressing things to attempt. The problem is, a tunnel to Newark International, at $1B, may actually be much easier than another tunnel to Manhattan. After all, you make another tunnel to cross the river, where do the people GO when they reach the other side? WTC? GC? Jerseys commuter problem will not be solved by another auto tunnel onto a gridlocked West Side Highway or a rail tunnel to an overbooked train station.

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    This is also great for everyone living in the financial district.

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    It may make JC a REAL viable midway between Manhattan and the World.

    And, ironically, make it easier to get to Manhattan via NJ than Queens or Brooklyn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjahedge View Post
    Unlike the PATH nay-sayers, I think this would have been GREAT for me when I was living in Hoboken. A 1 transfer ride to the airport for only (now) $1.70??!? That would have beaten the hell out of the $25 cab ride.

    Although I DO agree with the position that there are more pressing things to attempt. The problem is, a tunnel to Newark International, at $1B, may actually be much easier than another tunnel to Manhattan. After all, you make another tunnel to cross the river, where do the people GO when they reach the other side? WTC? GC? Jerseys commuter problem will not be solved by another auto tunnel onto a gridlocked West Side Highway or a rail tunnel to an overbooked train station.
    NJ transit trains stop at the Newark Airport station, but they are way too overcrowded most of the day. They keep claiming to be doing the Moynihan Station and there are some signs of work, but it keeps ending up being yet another utility or pipe repair. That project will greatly increase the capacity of Penn Station, but only if the extra tunnel under the Hudson finally starts. The original is dead, thanks to our governor, who couldn't wait to expand the turnpike and parkway, where he redirected all of the funding, but Amtrak is planning their own tunnel. That one hasn't been funded.

    Back to Light Rail, Jersey City's system is spectacular and is drawing lots of development, which busses simply do not. Newark's system needs expansion along Broad Street, Bloomfield Avenue, and Springfield Avenue. That will fuel massive amounts of development in downtown, which again, Busses don't. Many people in Newark, particularly the 40,000 college students, view busses as unsafe and unreliable. They are extremely unfriendly to first time users. When and if they will stop, how to signal a stop, and if the bus driver will do anything if you are in need remain a mystery. The Light Rail, on the other hand, features secure, often police monitored stations, a defined regular schedule, and stops at EVERY stop. They also announce the stop and alert passengers to an upcoming stop. Lines are clearly marked on maps and the stations themselves can serve as the center of the community. Modern development consensus is trying to improve that. That is why the light rail systems are spurring so much development. They are very convenient and user friendly.

    And will this site quit logging me out every 15 minutes while I am typing!!!! If I hadn't copied what I had typed elsewhere, the auto-save would have only saved the quote and the first paragraph.

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    If you're doing a long post, it's worth it to email it to yourself, do a cut and paste and then just plop the whole thing into the reply box here.

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    I copy it to Word and copy it back. The images usually screw up though.

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