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    So basically all we can hope for is for the PATH to be extended to EWR because right now that is the only thing that looks somewhat on the right track, no pun intended.
    Do you have info on the timeline for the PATH extension? All I saw from PANYNJ web site is the strategic plan that they will spend $30 millions during 2006/2007 and will put up $550 millions for this project between 2008 and 2015.

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    Whenever construction starts, it would take atleast 2-3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCMAN320
    So basically all we can hope for is for the PATH to be extended to EWR because right now that is the only thing that looks somewhat on the right track, no pun intended.
    The PATH extension to Newark Liberty International Airport's rail link station after the new Hudson tunnel is the most important project to New Jersey, it's being held up as NY politicians do not want a connection from Lower Manhattan to Newark Airport to happen before the Lower Manhattan-JFK project is assured and shovels in the ground.

    I guess they feel the momentum or support for the Lower Manhattan-JFK project might falter if there's an existing connection from Lower Manhattan to Newark Airport.

    Also with a price tag of $550 Million the Lower Manhattan-Newark Airport rail link looks like a tremendous return on investment compared to the $6-8 Billion Dollar Lower Manhattan-JFK rail link.

    Besides the obvious benefits of connecting Lower Manhattan/World Trade Center/Santiago Calavatrava's PATH hub with Newark Airport, connecting the PATH's World Trade Center line to Newark Airport would also provide a direct connection between Jersey City and Newark Airport.

    Also it will be alot more conveinent for travelers to/from Hoboken to ride the PATH from Hoboken terminal to Newark Airport via Journal Square or Exchange Place than it is to ride the one or two NJ Transit trains a day that operate between Hoboken Terminal and Newark Airport or to connect at Secaucus Junction.
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    STT I never thought of it that way but when you put it like that, I think your right. Newark and JFK are always going back and forth over who is the supreme ruler of the air in the NY area. It really is so much easier to just extend the PATH 2 Miles with that line already connected to Lower Manhattan than building an entire new line and infrastructure for about 6 miles to JFK from Lower Manhattan.

    STT I agree with you.

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    This was on NJ.com. Sounds like a good deal.

    Free parking extended at North Bergen light rail stop

    NJ Transit will extend its free parking offer at the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail Tonnelle Avenue station in North Bergen until Oct. 1.

    Located on Routes 1&9 at 51st Street, the Tonnelle Avenue Station has a 730-space park-and-ride facility.

    For information, call 1-800-772-2222

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    Quote Originally Posted by debris View Post
    Last thought (promise): HBLR should clearly be extended to the Meadowlands Sports Complex, with a stop in Secaucus.
    there are plans for that

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    NJ TRANSIT EXPANDS LATE-NIGHT LIGHT RAIL SERVICE TO BAYONNE
    Last two trips from Hoboken extended to 22nd Street

    September 6, 2006
    NJT-06-116
    Contact: Dan Stessel 973 491-7078

    NEWARK, NJ — Customers traveling from Hoboken to Bayonne now have the benefit of light rail service that operates up to a half hour later, enabling customers to spend more time enjoying attractions along the Hudson waterfront and in Manhattan without rushing to catch the last departure.

    The 1:17 a.m. and 1:37 a.m. southbound trips from Hoboken have been extended to serve five additional stations, terminating at Bayonne’s 22nd Street Station seven days a week. (Under the previous schedule, the trips terminated at Liberty State Park Station. Now, after departing Liberty State Park, the trains make stops at Richard Street and Danforth Avenue in Jersey City, followed by 45th Street, 34th Street and 22nd Street in Bayonne.)

    “This change provides additional late-night travel options for our Jersey City and Bayonne customers returning from New York City and Hoboken,” said Joe North, NJ TRANSIT General Manager of Light Rail Operations. “As ridership increases, we continue to make adjustments to meet our customers’ growing needs with an expanded level of service.”

    The new extended trips do not appear in current Hudson-Bergen Light Rail timetables, dated April 24. The change will be shown in the next printing of the timetables.

    About Hudson-Bergen Light Rail

    Hudson-Bergen Light Rail provides more than 34,000 weekday trips between 23 stations in Bayonne, Jersey City, Hoboken, Weehawken, Union City and North Bergen. The system provides a vital link between waterfront destinations, NJ TRANSIT rail and bus routes, PATH trains and trans-Hudson ferry services.

    The one-way adult fare on Hudson-Bergen Light Rail is $1.75. Discounted monthly passes are available for $53. Children, senior citizens and passengers with disabilities save 50 percent or more at all times. In addition, NJ TRANSIT customers holding a monthly or weekly rail pass, or a bus pass for two or more zones, can ride the system at no additional charge simply by displaying their pass.

    For Hudson-Bergen Light Rail schedules or information, visit www.mylightrail.com or call 1-800-772-2222.

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    Talking It's Official!!!

    Light Rail to serve Bergen Point

    Thursday, September 14, 2006
    By GREG HANLON
    JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

    It's official - the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail is heading farther south.

    The New Jersey Transit Board of Directors yesterday voted unanimously to award contracts for preliminary work to extend the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail from 22nd Street to Eighth Street in Bayonne.

    "This project is much more than a one-mile extension of track," said state Transportation Commissioner and NJ Transit Chairman Kris Kolluri. "It's an investment in Bayonne's future."

    This preliminary work - which will cost a total of $2.16 million, paid for with state and federal funding - will pave the way for the project to go out for bid. Officials predict construction will begin in 2008 and be completed by late 2009.

    "I am happy that this extension of the Light Rail will provide the residents of Bayonne's Bergen Point section with ready access to convenient, clean and timely public transportation," said Bayonne Mayor and state Sen. Joseph V. Doria Jr.

    The proposed extension of the tracks will run from the 22nd Street Station along a viaduct on Avenue E, curving along with Avenue E until it reaches the new station and platform, to be constructed at Eighth Street and Avenue C.

    The design of the new station will recall the elegant Central Railroad station that burned down in the 1970s, officials said.

    Doria expressed gratitude about the restoration of "an important part of our community, the Eighth Street Station, which many people thought would never come back."

    The extension is expected to accommodate the growing population of the Bergen Point section, home to two major proposed developments.

    The Kaplan Companies plans to build a 76-acre "mini-city" on waterfront property currently owned by Texaco. This new development is expected to bring 1,300 residential units to the area, as well as retail and office space.

    A residential development, dubbed the Waterfront and planned for Kennedy Boulevard between Second and Third streets, is expected to add 145 luxury units to Bergen Point.

    "The extension will serve existing residents and those who will move into new housing that Bayonne officials recently approved for the Eighth Street area," Doria said.
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    Incredible. At the same time, the MTA moves continuously slowly with the Second Avenue Subway...

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    Can't compare the costs.

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    The development sure seems to follow the light rail.

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    As someone not from the Tri-State area or Northeast for that matter, I have a question??? Somebody explain this to me. I've been to New York City and have been on the subway which of course is very fast and efficient and holds a lot of people. I think its a great idea that northern NJ has started installing more rail infrastructure, but I'm just wondering why LIGHT RAIL (HBLR)?? as the main mode??? Besides the obvious thats its cheaper to buildthan subway (PATH).

    I'm only saying this because looking at a map of say the NJ area parallel to Manhattan it would seem that a light rail line would take a long time to travel compared to subway line (PATH) running the same distance. Of course it would b/se it light rail. Plus the HBLR trains only seem to be able to carry like 50 people, the pictures show like two cabs. Although, I understand northern NJ is not as dense as Manhattan, it seems like a PATH train could be able to handle future densification more efficiently.

    These are my 5 Questions
    1)Can someone give me an idea of say how long a 13 mile ride (lenth of Manhattan) would take on the HBLR?
    2) and how many cabs are on each train?
    3) and how many people they can hold?
    4) and how often the trains arrive?
    5) and would a subway (PATH) be better transportation mode than the light rail (HBLR) for the future?

    I know its sounds like a stupid question, and I know that they are not going to rip up the light rail line, but from my unfortunate vantage point, it seems like HBLR would be inefficient for a contstantly densifying and growing area, especially during rush hour.
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    One where the lightrail runs is on old passeneger right of ways left over from the Jersey Central railroad and old freight right of ways, that's why that was choosen. The lightrail is two cabs and can probably hold close to a 100 people full capacity. Also the prospect of a subway throughout Jersey City and Hudson County is too costly because much of Hudson County is on the Palisades which is solid rock. Yes it would take longer than the subway because there are alot of turns. It is too coslty to put new subways in around here anyway because there is so much infrastructure underground.

    The lightrail arrives every 5 minutes during peak and every 10 mins off peak. Also North Jersey is very dense. New jersey alone is the most densely populated state in the USA.

    Here is a map of North Jersey rail system:
    http://www.njtransit.com/images/railmap06.jpg

    HBLR Map:
    http://www.njtransit.com/images/hblr_06.gif

    with the exception of the Downtown JC route (the part that connects with the PATH lines) the rest of the route is old rail right of way.

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    If you want the gory, technical details for comparing light rail vs. commuter rail vs. heavy rail, here is the place to look:

    http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs...0/part%205.pdf

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    NJ TRANSIT LAUNCHES NEW WEB FEATURES FOR ON-THE-GO CUSTOMERS
    Train status, schedules and service information now accessible on web-enabled mobile devices

    September 21, 2006
    NJT-06-122
    Contact: Dan Stessel 973 491-7078

    NEWARK, NJ – NJ TRANSIT customers can now access essential information, including train status, train schedules and fares—when they need it and wherever they are—through any web-enabled mobile device.

    Thanks to a recently installed technology upgrade, NJ TRANSIT customers can tap into the most popular areas of njtransit.com in a streamlined format optimized for mobile devices, such as Blackberry®, Treo™ or web-enabled cell phones.

    “This technology upgrade places NJ TRANSIT at the forefront of communications technology and gives customers an unmatched level of information,” said New Jersey Transportation Commissioner Kris Kolluri.

    NJ TRANSIT customers now have the power to scan up-to-the-minute train information while waiting on a station platform, find the next departure while sitting in a Midtown restaurant or get the details about an upcoming schedule change while riding in the middle seat.

    “Through this investment, we are giving our customers the resources they need—at their fingertips—to make informed decisions and identify their best travel options,” said NJ TRANSIT Executive Director George D. Warrington.

    For maximum convenience, customers can continue to use the same URL for NJ TRANSIT that they already know—www.njtransit.com. The system automatically provides optimized on-the-go content when a customer logs on using a mobile device.

    My Transit alert system gains speed, capacity

    NJ TRANSIT recently added server capacity to its popular My Transit alert system to provide faster delivery of delay information and the ability to accommodate more customers. With My Transit, NJ TRANSIT will send an alert directly to a customer’s cell phone, pager or email whenever there is a delay affecting their designated itinerary. Signing up is quick, simple and free at www.njtransit.com. Customers select their preferred method of notification—pager, SMS (text message) or email—and enter information about the rail, bus or light rail trips they take each day.


    New high-tech approach to “Lost & Found”

    NJ TRANSIT also announced the launch of a corporate-wide computer database for managing lost-and-found items and a new customer webpage for assistance in recovering those lost items. Prior to this technology investment, NJ TRANSIT relied on a paper-based system for lost-and-found inventory, without a centralized database, requiring customers to “call around” to any of 21 locations where lost-and-found items were turned in.

    The new computerized system gives a customer who reports a lost item a case number and attempts to match the lost item to the inventory of found items. Customers are notified when a possible match is identified, usually within 48 hours. Since January 1, 2006 a total of 3,489 items have been returned to customers, including 724 cell phones, 438 pairs of eyeglasses, 419 wallets, 338 umbrellas and 148 backpacks.

    In addition to the new web page, customers can now find assistance in locating lost items by calling a single number—1-800-772-2222—or from any NJ TRANSIT customer service office.

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