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    hmmmmm ...

    Cooper Union is hoping to receive a $60 million upfront payment for a 100 year land lease at 51 Cooper Square, where a large office development could be built to replace the existing building.

    The new 270,000 square foot office building would include 40,000 square feet of educational community space. The site is bounded by Third and Fourth avenues, East 8th Street (aka Astor Place), East 9th Street, and Wanamaker Place.

    http://www.nysun.com/article/45832?page_no=4


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    Cooper Square may be the site of a large office building.

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    DOB shows that the existing Approved Application for the New Building on this site by Thomas Mayne is slated for 116,263 Sq. Ft. (less than half the size mentioned in the above article from the NY Sun).


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    The larger office building will be built on the site of the present (yellow brick) engineering school on Astor Place. Thom Mayne's smaller, new engineering building will (unfortunately) replace the 2-story (grey stone) Hewitt Memorial Building on E. 7th St. and 3rd Ave. on Cooper Square.

    Despite its baroque, twisted and convoluted shapes, Thom Mayne's building must house rather ordinary classrooms suited primarily for teaching engineering lessons.

    One of the problems with the Hewitt Memorial Building was its lack of ADA compliance. Oddly, the new building's elevators will only stop at its 4th and 7th floors - apparently getting to the classrooms between if you're on crutches or in a wheel chair is not a consideration.

    Replacing the yellow brick engineering school with a revenue generating office building is understandable given Cooper Union's mission of providing tuition-free education. On the other hand, failing to figure out a way to build onto or into the Hewitt Memorial Building is, at least on first glance, disrespectful of all those people, including the Hewitts, who have contributed to Peter Cooper's institution over the past century, with faith that their contribution would be well managed.

    While some may say the Hewitt Building is not worthy of note, its urbane facades, the hemicycle at its center, its paneled lounge and the sentiment of gratitude and respect that it sought to convey will not be replaced in kind by the new building.

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    The Thom Mayne building tries so hard, and ultimately succeeds in being soulless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    hmmmmm ...

    Cooper Union is hoping to receive a $60 million upfront payment for a 100 year land lease at 51 Cooper Square, where a large office development could be built to replace the existing building.



    Heuichul Kim
    Cooper Square may be the site of a large office building.
    Isn't this where the new academic building will be constructed? I walked by there recently and saw this nice building boarded up as though it was being prepared for demolition. I like this building and had hoped that the horrible
    50's/60's yellow brick POS on the east side of 3rd (across from the Astor Place subway station) was to be razed for the new academic building. I found a photo of the POS:

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    Cooper Union's Hewitt Goes Topless on the Bowery

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    Monday, March 12, 2007
    by ROK88



    Demolition of Cooper Union's old Hewitt Building on the Bowery just below
    St. Mark's Place in the East Village is in full swing. Jackhammers have chipped
    away at the stone facade revealing a skeleton of steel beams, leaving just a
    memory of Old New York below the glistening glob of blue across the way.
    All this to make way for Thomas Mayne's new Psychedelic Pleasure Palace
    set to rise here soon.


    [The Hewitt Building pre-Demo (left) and today, with St. George's dome beyond]

    When this humble old building comes down it will more fully reveal
    St. George's Ukrainian Catholic Church just to the east on little Taras
    Shevchenko Place and East 7th Street. That same intersection is also the
    home of the even older McSorley's Ale House, the perfect place to tip a
    few while watching the stone crack and crumble (arrive really early if
    going there on St. Patty's Day).







    Cooper Union Demolition Gets Head Start [Curbed]
    Tom Wolfe on Landmarking: No Mas [Curbed]
    At the Sculpture for Living, No Park for You! [Curbed]
    Cooper Union's Psychedelic Pleasure Palace [Curbed]
    Friday PM Linkage: On St. Pat's Day, McSorley's line forms at 5:15 a.m. [Curbed]

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    This was a nice building. I don't know why it was razed and this was saved.


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    Well - it looks like ugly building is the next to go...

    From today's NY Post....
    March 13, 2007 -- SEEKING to exploit the growing taste for office buildings in untraditional locations, The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art is putting a big Astor Place development site on the block.
    Cooper Union is offering a 99-year ground lease on 51 Astor Place, currently home to its Engineering Building between Third and Fourth avenues.

    Studley's Woody Heller, Will Silverman and David Endelman will field offers.

    A buyer can raze the old building for a new, mostly commercial project. The site has been pre-approved by the city for a structure of 270,000 "zoned" square feet, of which 220,000 are slated for offices, 40,000 for community use and 10,000 for stores. The 270,000-foot total will likely be marketed as around 350,000 "rentable" square feet.

    Heller said the current classroom building on the 51 Astor Place site is not as efficient as Cooper Union's Foundation building just to the south. To replace the Engineering Building, the school is breaking ground on a new building at 41 Cooper Square nearby.

    That project is to be finished in February 2009, when a buyer of the 51 Astor Place ground lease would take possession of the site.

    Heller declined to estimate what the ground lease might fetch. But he said that if the land were sold outright, "Its worth would be no less than $350 per buildable square foot."

    He noted that a new building on the site would enjoy both proximity to the Lexington Avenue subway station across the street as well as "remarkable exposure," thanks to its position on an island between the two wide avenues.

    The artsy Astor Place neighborhood might once have seemed an unusual address for a new tower devoted mostly to offices. But Heller says Manhattan developers and tenants have increasingly been drawn to outside-the-box locations.

    The success stories include Harry Macklowe's 610 Broadway at the corner of Houston Street, which leased up quickly, and Barry Diller's Frank Gehry-designed IAC InterActive headquarters on 11th Avenue at 18th Street.

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    This area is getting some very futuristic buildings.

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    ^ Needed a shot in the arm.

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    Carlos Zapata's Cooper Square Hotel has now topped out -- the flag is flying up-top -- and today the crew was busy attaching metal cleats to the concrete floorplates ...

    GLASS should be going up there soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Carlos Zapata's Cooper Square Hotel has now topped out -- the flag is flying up-top -- and today the crew was busy attaching metal cleats to the concrete floorplates ...

    GLASS should be going up there soon
    That's one of the buildings I had in mind. It's awesome!

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    Short VIDEO on the NY Times website about the construction of Thomas Mayne's Cooper Union building:

    Learning Architecture: Vid Link


    Students at Cooper Union in the East Village are getting a chance to study construction firsthand.

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    That was very interesting. It would be nice to see some more video installments as it progresses.

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