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    ^ hardly far better but since you are so into comparing all these frankly quite similar buildings the terminal complex is much larger.

    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    To put it more accurately, the Terminal Tower was the tallest building in the world outside New York. Chrysler and five or six other New York buildings were taller.
    well ok, if not really any more accurate that is certainly an improved soundbite! but if you are going for more accuracy, watch your last sentence -- when built terminal was indeed number two, but eventually or really shortly thereafter yes chrysler and other manhattan buildings were taller. for example, terminal topped out in 1927, more than a year before chrysler broke ground. the massive complex opened in phases between 1927 and 1930. the tower was occupied by 1928.

    one more bit 'o trivia for ya -- speaking of the tower section of cleveland's terminal tower, guess what occupies much of that part today?


    * waits a beat ot two *


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    Quote Originally Posted by meesalikeu View Post
    when built terminal was indeed number two, but eventually or really shortly thereafter yes chrysler and other manhattan buildings were taller. for example, terminal topped out in 1927, more than a year before chrysler broke ground. the massive complex opened in phases between 1927 and 1930. the tower was occupied by 1928.
    Interesting. So I guess Number One in 1927 was still Woolworth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    Interesting. So I guess Number One in 1927 was still Woolworth?
    yes it was woolworth because after woolworth (1913) 40 wall was next as world's tallest. i checked and wall opened on may 26th, 1930.

    meanwhile in cle, demolition of over 1000 buildings and excavation for the union terminal complex began began in 1924.

    the central sections and the underground rail station of the cleveland terminal tower complex had been occupied for up to three years by the time 40 wall opened, and as i had mentioned above the tower itself for two years.

    the formal opening ceremony of the entire terminal group, including the guildhall, republic, and midland buildings across prospect avenue (now called the landmark office towers), took place on june 29th, 1930. so you can see that 'tower city,' as it's known today, is better thought of as a rockefeller center type of development than a single tower.

    of course all this was happening in the heat of the great ny skyscraper race. chrysler opened very shortly after these buildings in 1931 and terminal's place in the tall building race was moot. that is, inside of manhattan it was....outside of it was quite another story and terminal enjoyed it's status for a 36 year 'tallest outside of manhattan' run!

    finally, a last bit of trivia, both cleveland's terminal tower and even boston's prudential tower, the one that finally ended terminal's 36 year long run in 1964, today are not in the top fifty tallest in the usa anymore. oh, and when i was in high school i got my first (fake) ID made in the tt's train station - haha!
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    The crown with the statue catching the last flickers of sunset last night
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    Pretty darn good. ^

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    This was just too good of a photo opportunity to pass up.
    http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/k...a/SAM_0042.jpg

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    Inside Video Look of The Manhattan Municipal Building, One of NYC’s First Skyscrapers

    03/24/2015
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    See article for very interesting 26-minute video

    Earlier this month, Blueprint NYC (produced by the Office of NYCMedia), took viewers into the five Loew’s Wonder Theatres of New York and New Jersey. Their second episode details the fascinating history of the Manhattan Municipal Building, one of New York City’s early skyscrapers built in 1914. A fun fact: the striking building was designed from a rejected sketch of Grand Central Terminal.


    The Manhattan Municipal Building, one of NYC’s First Skyscrapers


    The Manhattan Municipal Building was also home to WNYC Radio, the first radio station in the United States to announce the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941. Adding to the building’s visual grandeur was the Statue of Civic Fame, a gilded copper monument located at the building’s summit. Often obscured from people at street level, the statue stands at 25 feet and is the third largest statue in New York City. As the video shows however, the scope and beauty of the Manhattan Municipal Building is only surpassed by its glorious history.



    The vintage subway entrance below Guastavino tiled arches at the Manhattan Municipal Building


    In 1893, the city of New York began renting spaces for government offices but it soon became clear that a city-owned building would be a more practical financial option over the long run. 12 architectural firms submitted designs for the future building and William Kendall, a skilled architect who worked for McKim, Mead and White, was selected to design the building. The Arch of Constantine also served as a model for the facade of the Municipal Building. The building’s terra-cotta vault was inspired by the Palazzo Farnes and its columned entrance was possibly modeled on Bernini’s Colonnade, at St. Peter’s


    The arch of the Manhattan Municipal Building. See more of the grand arches of NYC. Image Source: Loakie


    Work on the Manhattan Municipal Building commenced on December 28, 1909. Immediately, construction of the building was marred with serious obstacles. A thick sheet of bedrock was located 209 feet below the building’s intended site. The majority of skyscrapers in the city are built above a thick sheet of granite directly underneath the city’s surface. Siting the Manhattan Municipal Building where the bedrock sloped downward proved to be a risky move. In order to remedy this issue, construction workers used pressurized water cylinders to excavate the dirt below and replace it with concrete.

    When the Manhattan Municipal Building was completed in 1914, it cost an estimated $15 million dollars. Standing at 25 stories and 580 feet, The Manhattan Municipal Building was the fourth tallest in New York City at the time, behind The Woolworth Building, The Met Life Tower and The Singer Building.


    The Statue of Civic Fame Located At the Top of The Manhattan Municipal Building. Image via Flickr by Bobcatnorth


    Today, the Manhattan Municipal Building is home to over a dozen public agencies, 33 elevators, 73 restrooms, 2m000 windows and around 3,000 employees. It is also a city and national landmark.

    http://untappedcities.com/2015/03/24...t-skyscrapers/

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    I love that building. Thanks for posting, Merry.

    Another big plus: when you stand in the portico (for lack of a better term) and look out through its arches, you can not only clearly see the Woolworth Building, but also 1WTC because of the virtually unobstructed views thanks to City Hall Park.

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