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Thread: One 57 - 157 West 57th Street - 1003 feet - by Christian de Portzamparc

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    Is that a 'real' terracotta tile roof? Photos of NYC architecture still stand, IMHO, as the best possible - most enjoyable - post anyone can make. Thanks Derek for all your contributing all that great material.

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    Usually called Spanish tile. Same thing, though. Genuine fired clay.

    Originally the Central Savings Bank. Exterior and interior are landmarked.

    http://www.landmarkwest.org/landmark...nd%20Interior_

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    They also make some kind of synthetic fired ceramic clay tile these days.

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    OK. I'm just going to come right out and say it. Maybe I'm not the only one who has been thinking this?

    The height of One57 in and of itself is phenomenal - a great addition to the city. The developer deserves credit for pushing the envelope. It's a big reason why we've been praising this project on this board.

    Unfortunately, the facade, as it appears to be shaping up, is another story. It is, quite frankly ... terrible. A huge, blundering, missed opportunity for what could have been the ne plus ultra of elegance. Random panels of glass in different colors? I feel like I'm watching the 1980s PBS series "Innovation!" or I'm looking at the pixelated equalizer display on a 1980s ghetto blaster while it's pumping out some early hip hop. Can this building really be by the same architect who gave us the wonderful Dior building?

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    My pleasure infoshare.

    Me thinks interloafer just doesn't appreciate fine art. =P
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    New York has so many skyscrapers that sometimes I surprise myself when I find one that I've never heard of, nor seen before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infoshare View Post
    Is that a 'real' terracotta tile roof? Photos of NYC architecture still stand, IMHO, as the best possible - most enjoyable - post anyone can make. Thanks Derek for all your contributing all that great material.
    It looked real to me when I took the photo...

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    Sorry, I did not mean to imply the tiles in the photo were not the fired clay variety. It's an old building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingojesus View Post
    It looked real to me when I took the photo...
    I would be surprised if they are real (natural/organic) roof tiles as opposed to being some type of 'synthetic' of material: like hand-set brick walls, 'real' clay or terracotta roof tiles is rarely done these day.

    Anyway, I will get back on topic: speaking of 'synthetic materials' - whats going on with ONE57. HeHe

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    I agree that synthetic tiles are widely used these days, but maybe that roof hasn't been re-laid recently. If the tiles are synthetic, the roofers have gone to a lot of trouble (and expense) to simulate the variegated appearance of real terracotta tiles, which seems extravagant considering that the roof cannot be seen from street level. However if it's a landmarked building, and the roof has been re-laid, won't they have had to to use period-correct materials?

    Great photo, huh?

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    Oh, it is yours. I read that as tongue-in-cheek. Where did you take it from?

    The actual difference between a real clay roof and something else is a matter of function. The something-else is called a cosmetic roof. A real cay roof sheds water and provides drainage. A cosmetic roof covers a waterproof system beneath, protecting it from sun damage.

    There are alternatives to natural clay, mostly used for lightness in new construction. You can usually tell the difference.

    When the Central Savings Bank was constructed, these materials would not have been available. The building has been landmarked for almost 40 years, and the roof wasn't replaced. the only renovation was the 2006 conversion of the upper floors to condominiums by SLCE Architects. The LPC commissioners would have had puppies if the intention was to put up a synthetic roof.

    The ultimate fake tile roof.

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    That photo is from just above 72nd Street on the Upper West.

    Here's Gotham City in all its glory.

    http://www.newyorkyimby.com/2012/08/...my-sunday.html

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    Features and finishes from ONE57 Sales brochure


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