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    Default A very basic question . . .

    help me out here:

    What's a "floor plate?" Do all buildings have them? Houses? How do I see them when I look at a building to know whether they're exposed or not? Why is it such an aesthetic crime to handle them wrongly?

    I feel like I need this knowledge to get to the next wiredny level

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    Default as i understand it

    Look at the building on the left...if you notice there is a line of cement between each floor. That is the cement slab that divides each floor. Having that slab exposed is an exposed floorplate. now that you know, as you walk around the city you will see TONS of buildings with exposed floorplates....



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    ^^In WNY-Speak, floorplate also means the size (area) of each floor in a building, as in "trading firms require buildings with large floorplates." Floors has the same meaning and is preferable, unless verbosity is a writer's goal, but there are a few -- just a few -- around here who want to sound like architects even if they're not.

    I believe that, in the other sense of the term (uncovered concrete floor edges), exposed floorplates are often thought to be ugly and cheap. Over time, they often weather poorly, even in very new buildings.
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    Re: Exposed Floorplates

    At The Link you can see that the floorplates were exposed during construction ...



    But have since been covered with metal panels ...


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    Exposed floorplates don't do as well during earthquakes.

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    I think this picture does a better job of illustrating exposed floor plates.

    It's by H. Thomas O'Hara, who along with Gene Kaufman are New York's very own CRAP-O generators.


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    wow, now I see them everywhere! Thanks all!

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    ^That has to be the most hideous new building in Manhattan. Something like this should never be approved, and I don't care how cheap they were trying to be, something better could have been designed.

    The Link is ugly too, very little style or flair for the price those units will sell for. Since wealthy Americans aren't very discerning and there's no accounting for bad taste, I guess it doesn't matter to them what the OUTSIDE of the building even looks like. Just give them an impressive address and windows big enough to look out at yesteryear's buildings that are actually handsome.

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    Well, since I know you like looking at them so much MidtownGuy, here's some more just for you.

    More exposed floorplate goodness from O'Hara, this one on East 35th (just off Fifth Ave.!!)



    Are you taking notes, Front_Porch?

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    ^ They are all so ugly-ly the same! There is also a new one like those on First Avenue between 61st and 62nd. Really bad.

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    This would look cool with barbed wire coiled around the balcony and a German Shepard running back and forth.

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    Oh, yippee!!

    Another POS blank 50-story wall to match the one on the block to the south
    According to developers, blank walls were put in on the sides of the building where, in future years, other developments could go up, thus blocking out views and diminishing apartment values. On the west-facing side, the building has acquired the air rights from the church, so the views will never be blocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stache View Post
    Exposed floorplates don't do as well during earthquakes.
    Why dont they do well in earthquakes? Does it have to do with the fact that the wall is built inside the floorplate as opposed to outside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by montecarlo View Post
    According to developers, blank walls were put in on the sides of the building where, in future years, other developments could go up, thus blocking out views and diminishing apartment values. On the west-facing side, the building has acquired the air rights from the church, so the views will never be blocked.
    So what explains the design decision to build an ~ 50-story expanse of blank brick wall up the entire west facade overlooking the church

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    Hopefully something gets built there to block out that blank wall. Otherwise I like this building a lot, plus they are apparently using real bricks, which is a complete surprise to me.

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