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    Default North Hall

    North Hall is owned by The New York State Dormitory Authority. John Jay will probably try to work with them for a renovation once the new project is complete (which by the looks of things won't be until well into 2010).

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    Default How it looks today

    coming along...
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    Default and another one.

    The second tower crane is nearing completion.

    I am trying to figure out what the footprint of the highrise portion will be. Do you experts out there think it will be the entire area where they have started the steel construction, or is part of that the connection to the lowrise (so that maybe the highrise starts not with the leftmost steel upright but the one second from the left or something)?

    Here's a link to the renderings for comparison:

    http://www.som.com/content.cfm/john_...iminal_justice
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    Default in other words

    Is this structure what I think it is?
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    Yup, looks like it.

    I'm surprised they decided to build the two sections separately and each with separate foundations.

    I wonder what's that all about.

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    Aren't there train tracks running under this site?

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    Yeah, on the Eleventh Avenue side. This photo is from late April.
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    It was probably around that time I was in the area and heard the trains passing. I was stunned because I for got. Are they freight tracks?

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    Just Amtrak's line up to Albany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kz1000ps View Post
    Just Amtrak's line up to Albany.
    Really? These tracks go through Penn Station I assume? Very cool.

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    Yup. And they're still exposed down by the Javits. Here's a Gmaps aerial showing them right before they make the turn east to head into Penn Station.

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    I was wrong (on 12/20/08) about the "staircase cascade" feature... I can see now that this must be the lower one, which makes more sense in terms of the footprint of the high-rise part.
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    That power plant is a beaux-art beauty. I really hope they turn it into another Chelsea Market.

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    1/30/2009















    Getting off-topic a bit...here's the power plant right across the street:










    Why is it that even a simple, unassuming, utilitarian building from the past has a ton more and better architectural detailing than pretty much any of the buildings from today, even ones that try their darnedest to copy it?

    (Question was rhetorical, I already know answer).

    By the way, I hope that when they no longer have a need for this building, it gets preserved and that they don't tear it down or reclad it.

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    I wonder the same thing.
    Like why these billionaire developers don't build a building of actual quality, with details.
    Is it really that hard, or did we lose all of the talented craftsmen of the last century.
    I don't want to say we're digressing architecturally, but why not a little more diversity?
    15 CPW was a good try, but still pretty bland up close considered to this rotten old utility building.

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