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    Deniro's Greenwich Hotel is the only new building I can think of that successfully makes an effort at such detailing :
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    It is a skill that for the most part has been lost.

    The generations of architects since the 1950's only know how to draw geometric lines because that's all they're taught and expected to do.



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    These are from late February and early to mid March 2009.
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    They jumped the crane this week (I have pictures of that if folks are interested) -- it was fascinating to watch the process. But now I am wondering, since the building is going up around the crane, how are they going to disassemble the crane's mast? If it were on the outside of the building it could disassemble itself with the cab just going down as it took pieces out of the mast. But it seems like somehow they are going to have to get another crane up high enough to pull the mast sections up and out through the shaft?

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    Sorry if I missed this. What's with the set back construction on the far end of the site?

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    Good question. Maybe they just haven't brought it out as wide as it will be? From the rendering here

    http://www.som.com/content.cfm/john_...iminal_justice

    it doesn't particularly look like the "saddle" will be set back any more than the "tower".

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    The generations of architects since the 1950's only know how to draw geometric lines because that's all they're taught and expected to do.
    To be fair, they've been liberated by computers to indulge in complex forms, such as those of Nouvel, Calatrava and Gehry. If they're not artists like those gents, they're free to hang themselves with unforeseen effects, as at Bank of America.

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    Nearing full height. If I count right there are two more stories on the tall portion yet to come, and the "saddle" has reached full height in some sections. Looking forward to completion and to seeing the garden they're supposed to put on top of the saddle.

    BTW I hear that the decaying swimming pool outside the 59th street rec center is supposed to be filled in, and that section of the block made into a park. Yay!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ablarc View Post
    To be fair, they've been liberated by computers to indulge in complex forms, such as those of Nouvel, Calatrava and Gehry. If they're not artists like those gents, they're free to hang themselves with unforeseen effects, as at Bank of America.
    Interestingly, some of the glazed brick buildings from the 1950's have magnificent, complex forms.

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    Not gonna be missed: The view of the bland Mercedez Benz showroom building on 57/58 & Eleventh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    Interestingly, some of the glazed brick buildings from the 1950's have magnificent, complex forms.
    I generally think if you need a computer in order to design a building its probably bad. Its not necessary for a good designer.

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    Thank goodness... I worked for DASNY last summer and still couldn't figure out why this was proceeding so slowly...

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    Default framework almost complete

    they've started glassing in the first floor, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo-ny View Post
    I generally think if you need a computer in order to design a building its probably bad. Its not necessary for a good designer.
    Aren't all of the complex building shapes that have proliferated in recent years due to computer-aided design?

    These old brick buildings, which obviously were not computer-aided, have some really superb shapes although they tend to be purely geometric and not waivy.

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