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    This feels very chicken and egg to me, though. I mean, there's not enough people here to keep the street busy outside of peak times. And there's not enough stuff here for people to come to at night to keep it busy. But there's no reason for that stuff to be here if there aren't people to use it. And there's no reason for people to be here if there's not stuff to use. And UGH! I think some of the worst superblock issues can be solved by cleverly working with building owners to allow for additional retail square footage by opening up passageways through buildings that are inviting and open. Then have retail facing them. I think there is somewhat weak demand for this retail right now, but that residential construction is happening apace, and this will not last. I think human-scaled transportation options along with some clearly needed road diets leading to the bridges (and probably tolls) will take care of a number of these issues as well.

    Sadly, I question if the political will to make this happen against a tide of people invested in the status quo (and their porsches) is possible.

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    Jay Street has potential since it actually connects the two neighborhoods.


    New rendering of the Rockwell Hotel Tower from Leeser Architecture's website.


    More Renderings

    Besides Meier's Prospect Park condo, I think this tower may be Brooklyn's first serious high-rise. I look at Toren as a fun joke...

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    Toren = Big Bad Joke

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    ^
    That's a big deal.

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    Some updates from 02.14.14

    250 Livingston has been demolished, Lofter your task is to tell how big the can build here. This is a very good location for a mixed use, on top of the Hoyt-Schermerhorn A/C/G train station and a block from the 2/3 Hoyt Street station. Retail/Commercial/Residential?


    313 Gold Street






    85 Flatbush Av Ext


    66 Rockwell




    250 Ashland getting started


    300 Schermerhorn, Holiday Inn. This will be a beauty by Kauffman




    81 Fleet Street

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    A lot of new development getting started in downtown Brooklyn these days. Hoyt Schermerhorn will be a busier area in a few years.

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    Rendering of the Holiday Inn Tectonic photographed above:


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    A better rendering of that hotel rising at 40-46 Nevins. Not too bad.



    http://www.gkapc.com/even-hotel/

    Even Hotel
    Downtown, Brooklyn
    Located in downtown Brooklyn, this 13 story Even hotel will have 204 rooms and is designed to complement the vibrant arts and shopping areas that are at the heart of this Brooklyn neighborhood. It includes amenities such as two levels of gym and a full service restaurant located at the first floor.



    And a new hotel along Flatbush in CLinton Hill.


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    Poor Brooklyn.

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    Holiday Inn = kiss of death.

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    Kaufman's circular corner crown on top of that BK HI seems to be a left over from his plan for the hotel at the corner of Fourth Avenue & East 13th, just south of Union Square (which ended up being built with just square edges above that corner, sans crown) ....

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    A really hope the 210 Livingston site isn't wasted with similar garbage. Anyone knows how big they can build there. Meanwhile The Hub has not started yet and Avalon Willoughby should come out of the foundation pit soon, still a huge hole there.

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    If I remember correctly, the architects of the Even Hotel were inspired by a similar commieblock motel in Minsk, Belarus.



    http://realt.onliner.by/2013/12/03/panelnaya-gostinica/

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    On 210 Livingston, the lot is 25,112 sqft. FAR is 10. There is a 20% bonus for a public plaza. That makes for an office tower of 300,000 sqft. One has to imagine a lot coverage of maybe 50% with the public plaza, so that looks like about 12,000 sqft floor plates. That'd make for 25 floors straight up. 12ft plate to plate makes it 300ft tall (so not overly). There's an additional FAR bonus for inclusionary housing if they go residential. If the building were 432 Park proportions it could be 35 stories and 800 ft or so before any below market rate apts.

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    Thanks for that. Lofter you're fired .

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