New Far West 42nd Street Developments

[BrooklynRider]

I thought Ivy Tower was taller or, at least, appears to be. The Orion across the street is going to be a full 200 feet taller. Wow! 42nd Street is red hot!

Also, the Kraft Restaurant on 42nd & Tenth - across from Manhattan Plaza is closing and relocating up to Theater Row Building. The building it is in (which once housed NY1 Studios) will be razed in coming months for...

Well, I'll leave that to Derek to present <great job so far - excellent thread>.

[Derek2k3]

^Thanks, man. Also, I think the height to the top of the highest floor is submitted to the DOB, so almost all these numbers are lower than the actual height.

Project #13

Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower
20 Times Square/ SW corner of 42nd & Eighth
42 stories ~600 ft
Skidmore Owings & Merrill
Dev-Lawrence Ruben Company/Vornado Realty Trust
Commercial Office
1,450,000 Sq. Ft.
Proposed



Advanced Media Design
http://www.amdrendering.com/


DBox
http://www.dbox.com/


Lobby

SOM

http://www.som.com

Port Authority Office Tower Competition, New York, New York Situated
above the North Terminal of the Port Authority Bus Station, this new
mixed-use development will comprise office building, merchandise mart,
restaurant, and retail components is located at the prominent corner of
Eighth Avenue 42nd this project continues the major recent development
in time square 42nd.

Designed to reinforce the surrounding environment of 42nd Street, this
project at the Port Authority will recall the billboards of 1930s
Times Square. Rising from the bus terminal, the tower will feature an
electronic billboard that announces 42nd Street at its pinnacle. As a
beacon in the skyline as well as at street level, this lively and
vibrant focal point will draw people to the building and activate the
entire block of the Port Authority. Beginning at the setback to the
office tower, and descending to grade, white neon signs will proclaim
the activities within and, together with etched glass screens that
both lie above the neon and below the truss of the existing terminal,
provide a dynamic new facade for the Port Authority.


Lawrence Ruben Company, Inc.

http://www.rubenco.com/properties/ny...overview.shtml

Meticulously designed and planned, this stunning new corporate center
will bring to the 42nd Street corridor an address worthy of world-class
companies. Combining state-of-the-art technology with the best
traditional qualities, Twenty Times Square will respond to the
demands of productivity-oriented companies with 1.45 million rentable
square feet of office and retail space. Tenants will be able to take
advantage of huge, flexible floor plates, impeccable service,
unlimited naming opportunities, building-wide security and spectacular
views.

Twenty Times Square will offer incomparable convenience to the
region’s transportation system. Moments from major commuting hubs
– Penn Station, Grand Central Terminal, Port Authority Bus Terminal
and the Lincoln Tunnel – the building will also have easy access to
11 subway lines, as well as train-to-the-plane and express bus
services linking midtown Manhattan to Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark
Airports.


Column-free floor plates ranging from 38,000 to 74,000 square feet
State-of-the-art fiber optics, cable, internet, satellite and wireless
capacity
Floor-to-ceiling exterior glass windows maximize views
Spectacular two-story glass atrium lobby
Building-wide 24-hour, 7-day-a-week security, including card-controlled
access to all elevators and entrances
Building infrastructure of unparalleled capacity and reliability,
including redundant power systems with space for additional emergency
back-up units
Tenant-controlled individual climate systems
Exclusive limo/black car staging area and concierge facility


Some designs from the competition

SOM's initial design.


KPF


Rendering by Manuel Avila
http://home.earthlink.net/~mapjinc/


Photo by Vulgus

Links:
http://www.panynj.gov/tbt/PABT50th.htm
http://www.nydailynews.com/03-08-200...2p-60950c.html

[NewYorkYankee]

I REALLY like the P.A. Bus Tower! Looks great! I love the TQ feel at the bottom too! Any chance of this being approved?

[Derek2k3]

I don't think it needs any city approvals. It hasn't been built because it hasn't found any tenants. I'm hoping it will be redesigned once its relaunched.

Project #14

440 West 42nd Street
60 stories
Dev-TRM Associates (Twining Properties/The Related Companies/Macfarlane Partners)
Residential
600 units
Proposed Fall 2005-2007




Notice the tower and its base in switched positions;


Twining Properties

http://www.twiningproperties.com/home

Twining Properties is pleased to announce 440 west 42nd Street, a 60-story high rise residential tower with over 600 luxury apartments in Midtown Manhattan. 440 west 42nd Street will be developed by a joint venture between Twining Properties, The Related Companies and Macfarlane Partners. The project will occupy an entire city block and will include two retail levels above underground parking and rental apartments and condominiums with dramatic views of the Hudson River and Times Square. Construction will commence in the Fall of 2005.


Daily News
Secret city land deal a whopper

http://nydailynews.com/front/story/274649p-235147c.html

Property at 42nd St. and Dyer Ave., on far West Side, that Bloomberg administration indicated it planned to condemn - but then quietly sold to developer Steve Ross.
When the City Council approved the massive Hudson Yards development project last week, it gave the Bloomberg administration permission to condemn and acquire several parcels of land on Manhattan's far West Side.

One of those parcels is a city-owned block along 42nd St.'s Theater Row, between Dyer and 10th Aves. The buildings there would be torn down to facilitate construction of the No. 7 line subway extension and eventually a new station on the site.

But the Council was never told the city had no intention of condemning the site.

The city had quietly decided last fall to sell it to one of this town's biggest real estate developers, Stephen Ross, for the price of a song: $100,000.

If it sounds like a sweet deal, Ross must have thought so: He and his partners, TRM Associates, paid $107 million for the lease rights to the property, and sources say they plan to build a 60-story building there.

Ross, chief executive of the The Related Companies, is a close friend and former business partner of Deputy Mayor Daniel Doctoroff.

He bought the site's lease in early November in a federal bankruptcy court settlement from the partnership that controlled the block for 25 years.

Among the small buildings on the block are the former West Side Airlines terminal and two off-Broadway theaters, neither of which produces much rental income.

But the block's real value is its development potential, thanks to the city's decision to build a new subway station that will have four escalators and two elevators emptying into it.

On the surface, it smacks of a back-room agreement.

The city issued no press releases on its deal with Ross, and the settlement papers weren't filed with the city Finance Department until Jan. 18 - the night before the Council's vote.

Bloomberg aides said last week that the lease sale was a private transaction, and that City Hall had no favorites.

But according to documents in the bankruptcy case, the Ross group won City Hall's support as far back as July.

At the time, several developers were feverishly bidding to win control of the site.

Theater Row Phase II Associates held the site's lease but was in bankruptcy and owed the city nearly $14.5 million - making City Hall's approval a necessity.

The Theater Row group, headed by William Condren, had bought the site's lease in 1980 for just $450,000.

After the sale, the Condren group paid the city $9.5 million to settle its debt, and walked away with a profit of nearly $100 million.

One of the developers who competed with Ross for the lease was Robert Gladstone of Madison Equities LLC. His lawyers have charged in court papers that the negotiating process was unfairly skewed in favor of the Ross group.

Madison Equities points to an unpublicized July 22 agreement among the city, Condren and one of the partners in the Ross group, in which the city agreed to back the Ross partnership.

"There was never really a conversation between our side and the city," a Madison Equities source said last week.

David Burger, Condren's attorney, scoffed at the claim and said Gladstone is a sore loser.

As for Bloomberg officials, they insist their only concern from the start was for Condren to pay his debts. They added that the Ross group was the only suitor to agree to provide the city all the easements it needed to build the subway and the new station underneath the site.

"It not only cleared up a longstanding dispute, but it provided the city with money it was owed," said Michael Sherman, spokesman for the city's Economic Development Corp., and "will allow the No. 7 subway extension to be completed."

But at the Council, all were shocked to learn about the secret sale of a property it had just approved for condemnation.

"It's very surprising," said Councilwoman Christine Quinn, who took part in marathon talks with City Hall over the Hudson Yards plan. "When you don't make complete disclosures, for any reason, it raises questions."

Ross recently built the giant Time Warner headquarters at Columbus Circle. His side wouldn't confirm plans to build a 60-story skyscraper.

Jeff Blau, Ross' second in command, would say only that it will be a "mixed use" commercial and residential structure.

Given the close relationship between Doctoroff, the city's economic development czar, and Ross, it's natural to ask if the deputy mayor had anything to do with the transaction.

Doctoroff, once a co-owner of the New York Islanders with Ross, did not return calls for comment.

"Neither Doctoroff nor the mayor had anything to do with this," said one city official involved in the deal. "[Doctoroff] is recused from any decisions involving Ross.

"It was a team decision," the official said.

Originally published on January 25, 2005



This is the building mentioned by BrooklynRider slated to be demolished. Along with once housing NY1 it currently hosts Judge Hatchett.

Links:
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5509
http://www.twiningproperties.com/news/archive/2001
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=222435
http://www.backstage.com/backstage/n..._id=1000816598
http://www.therealdeal.net/issues/Fe...1107826801.php

[Derek2k3]

Project #15

One River Place/River Place Phase I
650 West 42nd Street/1 River Place
40 stories 403 feet
Costas Kondylis & Partners
Dev-Silverstein Properties
Residential Condominium
921 units 888,508 Sq. Ft.
Completed 1999-early 2001








One River Place

http://www.riverplacenyc.com/

An Urban Oasis

on 2 ½ acres has all the
recreational amenities of a resort:
Year Round Olympic Pool
34,000 SF Fitness Facility
Tennis Courts
Full-court Basketball
Golf Practice Green
Billiards Room
Landscaped Park and Café
32nd floor Sundeck
Observation Deck Overlooking Swimming,
Tennis and the River.

41 story tower with spectacular 360 degree views
Elegant lobby with 24-hour doorman and 24-hour concierge
Indoor valet parking
Continuous ribbon windows

Rent Stabilized
No Fee
Shares Welcome

River Place enjoys a unique presence in Midtown Manhattan. On a private street, set on 2 1/2 acres between the new Times Square and the Hudson River, River Place offers convenience to both. River Place commuters have immediate access to cross town buses and citywide train lines. The Westside Highway and the Lincoln Tunnel are minutes away.

Beyond its 2 1/2 acres of recreational grounds, River Place is steps from the Hudson River esplanade and its opportunities for strolling, jogging, blading and bicycling. With all of the amenities of a vacation oasis, and entertainment, dining and work all within easy reach, River Place is an incomparable destination location.

THE INDELIBLE FIRST IMPRESSION

Entering under the gatehouse arch, the driveway encircles a fascinating three-sail fountain of spray and mist. The dramatic, 2-story River Place lobby is elegantly designed and exquisitely finished. The Botticino marble floor blends into rich, blonde Anegre Mahogany wall panels, defined by sleek bands of brushed stainless steel. Behind a centrally located Verdé marble desk, the concierge awaits to greet visitors and attend to residents' needs around the clock. The River Place lobby creates a first impression that invites and excites.

River Place is as big as all outdoors when it comes to the pleasures of its residents. There is River Place Café for light fare and coffee, indoors and out with a delightful River view. There is a refreshing sundeck for relaxing or tanning overlooking the Hudson.

The landscaped River Place park provides a green oasis for exhilaration or exercise where Midtown meets the River. River Place is Manhattan's only resort level residence, and only River Place offers 2 1/2 acres of recreation, fitness and fun.

The Lap of Luxury

River Place invites you to experience the pure pleasure of a year-round, private Olympic lap pool. The air and water temperatures are comfort controlled to provide the optimum environment for fitness and fun.

Hours are Monday-Friday 6:30 A.M.-10:30 A.M. and 4:30-9:30 P.M. Saturday and Sunday 8:30 A.M.-7:30 P.M.

Both an athletic and an aesthetic experience, the pool and decorative columns are beautifully inlaid with an original tile mosaic. River Place offers both steam and sauna rooms, and with true spa convenience, men and women's showers and locker rooms.

Adjoining the pool, is a refreshing outdoor sundeck with lounge chairs and tables - the perfect way to sun-dry or watch the sunset in the cool of the evening.




Links
http://www.wirednewyork.com/real_est...ce/default.htm
http://www.emporis.info/en/wm/bu/?id=114291
http://www.silversteinproperties.com/oneriverplace.htm
http://www.kondylis.com/projects/93002.html
http://www.efcocorp.com/web.nsf/Proj...1?opendocument
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...56C0A9669C8B63
http://newyork.construction.com/NYCN...cover-003.html
http://olr.com/building_directory/bu....asp?BID=17462

[Derek2k3]

Project #16

605 West 42nd Street
604 West 43rd Street/563-578 11th Avenue
Dev-Moinian Group
~757 units 750,768 Sq. Ft.
Residential
Proposed


This has a good chance of being one of the tallest on W. 42nd as long as Moinian doesn't pull a River Place and build >10,000 Sq. Ft. floor plates. The lot is slightly larger than the adjacent 625 West 42nd St. tower but will have over 200,000 more square feet. I'm expecting at least 60 stories.


The site was recently rezoned...

ENB - REGION 2 NOTICES

http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/e...0616/not2.html

Conditioned Negative Declaration
New York City County - The City Planning Commission, as lead agency has determined that the proposed Verizon West 43rd Street Rezoning will not have a significant adverse environmental impact provided specific conditions are met. There will be a 30 day public comment period commencing with the date of this notice. The action involves an application by Verizon New York, Inc., for a Zoning Map Amendment to change the northeastern portion of the block bounded by West 42nd and 43rd streets, and Eleventh and Twelfth Avenues, from an M2-3 zoning district to a C6-4 zoning district, within the Perimeter Area (Area B) of the Special Clinton District. The project site is located at 604 West 43rd Street (Block 1090, Lots 36 and 42), in the Clinton neighborhood of Community District 4, in Manhattan. Lots 36 and 42 are the last two tax lots on Block 1090 that are still zoned M2-3. The rest of the block was rezoned to a C6-4 district under a previous application (CEQR No. 94DCP036M/ULURP No. 970219 ZMM), adopted on July 15, 1997. The property subject to the proposed rezoning is developed with a 6-story, 75,000 square foot office building and a 1-story vehicle maintenance garage, that conform to the existing M2-3 zoning district regulations, and are currently occupied by Verizon and/or its subcontractors. The proposed change to a C6-4 district would allow the establishment of residential uses on the site to be built to a maximum FAR of 12.0, or commercial and community facility uses to be built to an FAR of 10.0. Residential and community facility uses are not permitted in the existing M2-3 zoning district.

The applicant owns a lot (Lot 23) that is adjacent to area to be rezoned and also owns development rights from another contiguous lot (Lot 20). Both of these properties are located in the existing C6-4 zone. If these lots were merged with the lots proposed to be rezoned under this action, the resulting zoning lot could be redeveloped with a mixed-use building, comprising a total of 750,768 square feet, including approximately 757 dwelling units, 18,000 square feet of ground floor retail space and an accessory parking garage for approximately 150-vehicles. The redevelopment of the site would require the demolition of the existing buildings in the rezoning area (Block 1090, Lots 36 and 42) and the adjacent lot (Block 1090, Lot 23). The existing structure on Lot 20 is expected to remain.


...and sold to the MoinianGroup.

MOINIAN'S $120M WINS VERIZON SITE

By LOIS WEISS

Developer Joseph Moinian's bid of $120 million has won him the rights to a 60,000 square-foot development site on West 42nd St. being sold by Verizon.

The contiguous plots and industrial buildings at 563 Eleventh Ave. and 605 W. 42nd St. wrap around a gas station to also include 604 W. 43rd St.

After closing later this year, Moinian is expected to construct a mammoth apartment building that will include street retail.




That short yellow building in the foregorund is where it should rise.

[BrooklynRider]

Project #15 = Biggest residential floor plates in the city.

[NYatKNIGHT]

It looks like a casino.

[Derek2k3]

Project #15 = Biggest residential floor plates in the city.

It's also the largest residential bulding in the U.S. What a waste...you would think that anyone who got a full city block in Manhattan would do something decent..and this guy is the developer for the new WTC. Thankfully the city won't let him start Phase II.


Project #17

River Place Phase II
600 West 42nd Street
53 stories 522/559 feet
Costas Kondylis & Partners
Dev-Silverstein Properties
Residential Rental
882 units 854,683 Sq. Ft.
Proposed/Unbuilt




Silverstein Properties
http://www.silversteinproperties.com/dev_2rp.htm

Slated for development in 2004, this new sister building to One River Place will offer 882 residential apartments on West 42nd Street at 11th Avenue.


The New York Times
March 17, 2004

Developer Balking Over Plans for West Side Convention Hotel

By CHARLES V. BAGLI

The long-awaited plans for an expanded $2.8 billion convention and stadium corridor on Manhattan's far West Side have hit a snag, even as state and city officials prepare to formally announce the project.

Government officials want to build a 1,500-room convention hotel and ballroom at 42nd Street and 11th Avenue as part of a $1.4 billion expansion of the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center nearby. They view the hotel as a critical element of their plans to attract more conventions and trade shows to New York.

But Larry A. Silverstein, the developer who owns the block where officials plan to build the hotel, is balking. "Larry Silverstein has not heard from either state or city government concerning that property," said Howard J. Rubenstein, his spokesman. "Therefore, he thinks it's premature to discuss what he might do."

Mr. Silverstein built a 900-room apartment tower on the western half of the block several years ago and has said he plans to build a similar tower on the parking lot next door. But in recent weeks, two people active in the hotel industry have said that Mr. Silverstein talked to a developer working with the Hyatt hotel chain about building a tower with condominiums and hotel rooms, though on a much smaller scale than a convention hotel. Mr. Rubenstein said, "He has spoken to no one about a hotel on his property."

In any event, Charles A. Gargano, chairman of the Javits development corporation, said the state would condemn the property if necessary.

"We've recognized all along that a convention hotel would work well with an expanded Javits," he said.

The hotel industry has lobbied for a decade to expand the Javits center, which stretches along 11th Avenue from 34th to 38th Street. And Robert Boyle, chairman of the Javits operating corporation, has long wanted to put a large convention hotel at 42nd Street and 11th Avenue.

The proposed expansion of the convention center would bring it up to 40th Street and nearly double the size of the exhibition space. On the south side of the center, the Jets are proposing a $1.4 billion football stadium that would provide an additional 200,000 square feet.

Jonathan M. Tisch, chairman of the city's convention and visitors bureau, said yesterday at a forum sponsored by Crain's New York that the executive board of the city's Hotel Association had agreed to a $1.50-a-night hotel tax to help pay for the Javits expansion. The state and city are each expected to contribute $300 million. He said he expected the project to be announced very soon.

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company


Javits Convention Center Hotel
600 West 42nd Street
50 stories 664 feet
HOK Architects
Commercial Hotel
1,500 rooms
Proposed







Links:

Threadhere:
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3173

http://kondylis.com/
http://www.emporis.info/en/wm/bu/?id=102114
http://newyork.construction.com/NYCN...cover-003.html
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/sh...0&page=1&pp=15

[JMGarcia]

Low end Larry strikes again.

[Derek2k3]

Project #18

306 West 44th Street
693-699 Eighth Avenue/307/321 West 43rd Street
SLCE/Dewitt Tishman Architects
Dev-Steve Witkoff
Residential Condominium
250,000 Sq. Ft.
Proposed

Previous design by Dewitt Tishman Architects

306 West 44th Street
693-699 Eighth Avenue/307/321 West 43rd Street
23 stories 221 feet
Dewitt Tishman Architects
Dev-Harwood Properties
256 units 248,280 Sq. Ft.
Residential
Unbuilt



WITKOFF TO BUILD

http://www.cityfeet.com/news/default.asp?lCityID=1

Steve Witkoff has purchased a majority interest in the Clinton site at 306 West 44th Street, aka 307 West 43rd Street from Harwood Properties where he intends to develop a new apartment building on that blockfront on the west side of Eighth Ave. Lowell Harwood, his son Craig an independent filmmaker “with an amazing eye for real estate” who was with Central Parking, daughter Leslie of Newmark Real Estate and two nephews, Brett and Scott, have all been working on the project which was
held up after Sept. 11, 2001. The current site has a huge parking garage that will be torn down and reincorporated into the new tower. Peter DeWitt of DeWitt Tishman Architects who has designed many of the apartment towers on the Jersey side of the Hudson River, shephearded the project through the city review process and has been retained as designer for the new tower that will also get some tweaking from one of Witkoff’s favored architects, Peter Claman. Current thinking is that the project will become one of the only Times Square area condos, and the luxury project will end up with amenities such as a tennis court and gym. Sources said Witkoff spent around $26 million to buy into the project which was marketed by Jimmy Kuhn and David Noonan at Newmark.


NYPost:

A new apartment building may finally start rising in Clinton at 306 W. 43rd St., on the west side
of Eighth Avenue. Sources say developer Steve Witkoff - owner of the Woolworth Building -
has bought the majority stake in the Harwood Properties' family venture for about $26 million.
He intends to redevelop the current parking garage with a 450-car below-grade garage and
a 250,000-square-foot residential property likely to become a condominium.

Lowell Harwood, his two nephews, Brett and Scott, and son Craig and daughter Leslie -
herself a prominent real estate broker with Newmark - have all been working on the project,
which was held up after Sept. 11, 2001.

It is likely their original architect, Peter Dewitt of Tishman Dewitt Architects,
will take a back seat to one of Witkoff's preferred design mavens, Peter Claman of
Schuman Lichtenstein Claman Efron.

No one returned calls for comment, but we've heard the project will have upscale amenities
such as a tennis court and magnificent gym.

Links
http://www.manhattancb4.org/agendas/...nutes02jul.htm
http://manhattancb4.org/agendas/2003...3jan.htm#Item5
http://www.dewitttishmanarch.com/schem.html
http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/e...1003/not2.html
http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/e...1024/not2.html

[NoyokA]

Derek is this the property where they juggled a number of build-out options, for instance 20 storeys, 30 storeys, 40 storeys....

[BrooklynRider]

Am I wrong, or is that the facade of the Playpen Theater at the Eighth Ave base?

[Derek2k3]

Derek is this the property where they juggled a number of build-out options, for instance 20 storeys, 30 storeys, 40 storeys....

Yup, I think it ranged from about 25-40 stories with the past developer. Now, with Witkoff supposedly building really high-end condominiums I expect it to be on the higher end of stories. You can read how "neighborhood advocates" "vehemently oppose this option" here.

http://manhattancb4.org/agendas/2003...3jan.htm#Item5

Am I wrong, or is that the facade of the Playpen Theater at the Eighth Ave base?

ha, I never noticed that...they should keep it open and list it as an amenity.

[Derek2k3]

Small project...

Triple Bridges
Ninth Avenue
PKSB
Dev-The Port Authority of NY & NJ
Completed 2004





http://www.pksb.com/home.html


Triple Bridges
Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Bus Terminal/New York, NY

PKSB won a competition to transform the bus ramps into the Port Authority bus terminal into a triumphal gateway for Manhattan. The design solution consists of a scaffold for installation and maintenance and a perforated metal plank. This plane acts as a theatrical scrim, both revealing and concealing color that vibrates between surfaces to invigorate and illuminate the space below. Car lights and reflections of the surrounding area also interact with the installation to create a constantly changing composition that expresses the energy that is contained within the structure.

Links
http://www.panynj.gov/tbt/PABT_Ramps.html


Some things to look forward to...

NW Corner of 42nd & 8th
Dev-Jeff Sutton and Joe Cayre
Proposed

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5920

The following was reported in the 3-9-05 edition:
The Duane Reade building on the northwest corner of 42nd St. and Eighth Ave. is under contract to be sold to a group led by Jeff Sutton and Joe Cayre, sources said.

This site is such an eyesore. Hopefully, it will spark much needed development on a hideous stretch of 8th Avenue.

NYPost
http://www.nypost.com/realestate/comm/42111.htm

The Duane Reade building on the northwest corner of 42nd St. and Eighth Ave. is under contract to be sold to a group led by Jeff Sutton and Joe Cayre, sources said.

The duo declined comment on what is being described as an "over $30 million" purchase from HSBC Bank, its previous occupant.

The deal for the building on an 80 x 75 foot plot on the Deuce is being handled without a broker and should close early in the third quarter.



I saw maps that would demolish the mid-rise to the west and include the parking lot in the footprint. I would think this would only be done for a commercial tower though so I expect a development at the corner and another nice sized building over the parking lot.



Some prospects specified by the West Side Plan not yet discussed.



Daily News...

It's a pain in the glass

BY JOSE MARTINEZ

Big plans for the far West Side could mean lights out for St. Raphael's Church.

The elegant, stained-glass windows inside the Catholic church on W. 41st St. could be cast with long shadows if three planned buildings - including a 500-foot apartment tower - are built as part of the area's redevelopment.

"In Europe, the city usually builds some kind of square next to the church," said the Rev. Ivica Majstorovic, the church's pastor. "Not in Manhattan, I guess."

According to a new city Planning Department study, the church and the James A. Farley Post Office building on Eighth Ave. are the two buildings within the 360-block development zone that will face significant shadowing from new construction.

At St. Raphael's, a 90-year-old neo-Gothic church catering to New York's Croatian community, that translates to brilliant stained-glass portraits of Jesus and the 12 Apostles going dark.

"When the sun hits, you can see their reflection on the floor," Majstorovic said.

Sunlight to several of the stained-glass panels already is obscured by the church's five-story rectory next door. But new towers would cloak the windows with several more hours of shadow.

"We would need to get some new lights in here," Majstorovic said.

Opened in 1914, the 10th Ave. church has been home to the Irish and Italian Catholics of Hell's Kitchen, whose names are reflected in memorials on the stained-glass panels. Now, most of the parishioners are Croatian-American and the church is formally known as Sts. Cyril and Methodius and St. Raphael's.

"We who inherited this church love it so much," Majstorovic said. "Imagine how those people who built this must feel."

The city hopes the massive redevelopment plan will bring a football stadium, an expanded Javits Center, 12,000 housing units and 100,000 new jobs to a long-moribund district.

"This just has phenomenal potential for securing the future of the city," Rachaele Raynoff, a Planning Department spokeswoman.

Majstorovic said he appreciates the city's efforts on the far West Side, while acknowledging there are "pluses and minuses" with all the hoped-for construction.

He said he originally feared the redevelopment could close the church, but now he worries more about subway construction and lost light through the stained glass. "That's just the way it goes," he said. "I don't think that anybody can stop it."

I'll try to come up with a map some time this week