View Poll Results: TWIN TOWERS II or the Freedom Tower

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Thread: TWIN TOWERS II vs. The Freedom Tower

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    ....logo of "pan am" above Grand Central Terminal.
    I Also miss that sign so very much- it was a big part of the building for me!
    Last edited by scumonkey; November 15th, 2007 at 02:18 AM.

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    I miss the Braniff flight attendants.


  3. #93

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    ^ I miss all the former flight attendants. They were once picked for their looks.

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    Or miss the whole thing...flying in the Jet Age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumonkey View Post
    Company names on top of scrapers= Tasteless
    Is and will always be.

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    Is and will always be
    I don't agree......If done right there is nothing wrong with it- like the old pan am sign- which suited the building- was a part of it.
    I don't think the new met life sign should have replaced it though....
    It doesn't have the same period look and clashes with the facade.
    Looks like a bumper sticker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREPYE View Post
    Company names on top of scrapers= Tasteless
    Is and will always be.
    Do you dislike 30 Rock more now, or more when it was RCA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREPYE View Post
    Company names on top of scrapers= Tasteless
    Is and will always be.
    What do you suggest we do - outlaw it?

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    Do you dislike 30 Rock more now, or more when it was RCA?
    I really don't see that much difference between the two (both used/use the same red neon looking tubes).
    I had gotten used to seeing the RCA up there (nostalgia), BUT-
    I never thought either of them fit the building they were/are on.
    This is a case where it doesn't work either.
    It might just be a buildings from the sixties thing....Look at the pru in boston
    (built around the same time as the pan am), that sign "fits" ( does not detract from, )the building as well. (imho)

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    Sometimes a building almost needs some writing at the top in order to finish it. Case in point- the old State Street Bank building in Boston.

    State Street moved into a new building a couple years back, and their sign made the switch along with them. The old tower, an unremarkable mid-60s brutalist design (somewhat similar in appearance to the MetLife), is completely lost among the downtown crowd now that it has no name at the top of it.

    With (not the best angle to represent its skyline presence):


    and without:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    I'm still somehow desperately hoping we can demolish something somewhere and build another FT without a spire. 101 barclay might be a candidate.
    I work at 101 barclay and its alot nicer than the crap around there, simply put hands off

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    I hope it's nice inside, because that's not the case on the outside. Gigantic sidewalks on three sides, and it offers absolutely nothing to the street except elbow room for smokers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    Do you dislike 30 Rock more now, or more when it was RCA?
    I never said that it took away from the appeal from the tower as a whole. Please reread the post. The mere act of using the top of a tower as some uncontextual billboard is tasteless to me. The only exception to this is the screens at top 4 TS. I know it may sound contradictory but it doesnt bother me as much. Maybe because the fact that that is the purpose of the screens and they serve as a commemoration to the the advertiment flamboyancy of times square; so IMO there is some depth as to purpose and contextualism. Also the animation give it some interest, its not some letters pasted atop of the building trying to use its height as a marketing gimmick.

    I'd much rather the opposite and that is what New York Life does....use the building as part of its company logo.


    Quote Originally Posted by pianoman11686 View Post
    What do you suggest we do - outlaw it?
    I wouldn't vehemently oppose that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREPYE View Post
    I never said that it took away from the appeal from the tower as a whole.
    Which is why I asked about 30 Rock, which you didn't answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    I hope it's nice inside, because that's not the case on the outside. Gigantic sidewalks on three sides, and it offers absolutely nothing to the street except elbow room for smokers.
    it is really nice, its an atrium building so light pours in from outside throughout the entire building. very clean and refreshing actually. its not the best looking from the outside but its a product of the 80's hardly bad looking. its massive floor plates make it a really good spot for financial companies to operate. the 16th floor is one of the best parts because the lunch room is there . half of the floor is the serving areas, and the other have is the seating area where the buildings begins to step back from the street. so its about 40-60 feet of pure sunlight.

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